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Bug 262546 - First-time wizard windows too high for 800x600
First-time wizard windows too high for 800x600
Product: evolution
Classification: Applications
Component: general
2.30.x (obsolete)
Other All
: High major
: Future
Assigned To: Evolution Shell Maintainers Team
Evolution QA team
: 360826 440049 534189 563054 628628 645459 648185 652226 668409 (view as bug list)
Depends on: 267787
Reported: 2004-08-05 13:17 UTC by toni heinonen
Modified: 2012-10-30 07:23 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---

screenshot of the situation in 800x600 Maverick in VirtualBox (101.18 KB, image/png)
2010-09-12 12:15 UTC, Yann

Description toni heinonen 2004-08-05 13:17:49 UTC
Please fill in this template when reporting a bug, unless you know what you
are doing.
Description of Problem:
The first-time wizard's windows are far too high to be used on 800x600
displays. Maybe you should do like ethereal did, and widen them instead?

Steps to reproduce the problem:
1. Tune your resolution to 800x600 (or, if like me, that is the highest you
have, you don't have to do this)
2. Start evolution for the first time
3. Try and guess how you can hit the forward-button when it's offscreen

Actual Results:
Wizard unusable

Expected Results:
Wizard usable

How often does this happen? 
Every time

Additional Information:
Bigscreen nazis
Comment 1 Not Zed 2004-08-09 05:55:45 UTC
This is a bug for UI design.

It's primarily because of the HIG requirements on spacing, and the
number of options to configure.
Comment 2 JP Rosevear 2004-08-13 18:43:20 UTC
We can't see how to fix this properly for 2.0 since we are essentially
frozen now and this would take a redesign, plus we are redoing a lot
of the configuration stuff anyhow for 2.2 as part of EPlugin, sorry
about that :-(.
Comment 3 Zakaria 2004-10-16 03:11:20 UTC
Also unusable in 800x600 is Evolution Settings window
Comment 4 Rodney Dawes 2005-02-24 00:21:04 UTC
Punting this to 2.3 where we'll be looking into Druid changes and
fixing some of the lower resolution issues.
Comment 5 André Klapper 2005-11-08 15:08:26 UTC
in order to destroy the UI component (as discussed with jpr, dobey, and nags),
changing component and reassigning. adding usability keyword.
developers, please reassign appropriately if necessary.
adding dependency.
Comment 6 Elijah Newren 2006-02-01 18:01:40 UTC
It's worth nothing, for Metacity >= 2.13.2, that if the window doesn't have a minimum size hint larger than the screen then Metacity will now force such windows to be onscreen (by shrinking and moving them as necessary).  If the window has a minimum size hint larger than the screen, then the user can use alt+left-click-and-drag (or alt+f7 and then the arrow keys) to move the window upwards (including moving the titlebar offscreen) in order to get to the forward button.  Yeah, that's just a workaround for windows that are too large, but it may be helpful information for those waiting for the UI changes to make the window usable on 800x600 resolutions.  :)
Comment 7 André Klapper 2006-03-05 00:40:16 UTC
removing ancient target milestones, sorry
Comment 8 Elijah Newren 2006-10-09 06:47:20 UTC
*** Bug 360826 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Elijah Newren 2006-10-09 06:48:40 UTC
Ugh, what a typo.  Anyway,
  It's worth nothing
should have been
  It's worth noting
which has a much different meaning (in reference to comment 6).
Comment 10 Elijah Newren 2006-10-09 06:54:16 UTC
Should we make an 800x600 resolution tracker bug?  Or are all these bugs actually talking about the same window?  (Bug 350932, bug 239706, bug 244429, bug 267787, and bug 262546?)
Comment 11 Pedro Villavicencio 2007-05-21 02:20:25 UTC
*** Bug 440049 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 Wendall Cada 2007-08-29 03:44:20 UTC
This bug has been open for several years. Will evolution ever support 800x600 resolution? If not, would be very good to have that information, so I can quit beating my head against the wall with users and recommend something else. Why this bug and all the issues related to it have not been marked critical is beyond me. It renders the product entirely useless for this resolution. Some hardware DOES NOT support larger than this resolution, especially small laptops.
Comment 13 Matthew Barnes 2008-05-21 14:56:26 UTC
*** Bug 534189 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Matthew Barnes 2008-12-03 02:05:42 UTC
*** Bug 563054 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15 André Klapper 2009-01-11 22:07:13 UTC
There are downstream patches at from .
Comment 16 deadowlsurvivor 2009-01-13 01:58:45 UTC
Evolution needs a more compact layout, for lower resolutions in general. The calendar isn't usable at 800x600 either.
Comment 17 Anita Davis 2009-08-23 02:59:21 UTC
i downloaded the version online, uninstalled the previous version and found myself with the same situation.  then it occurred to me... why not use a keyboard shortcut.

i noticed that the "next" button is marked "forward" so i hit alt + f and guess what, i was able to successfully install the program.

i will keep this in mind for the future but maybe it can help someone out so i am posting it here.
Comment 18 Akhil Laddha 2009-09-10 12:50:55 UTC
It should be marked dupe of bug 267787 ?
Comment 19 Wendall Cada 2009-09-11 19:22:34 UTC
@comment 18

This is the oldest bug. All others should be being marked as duplicates of this one. 

Additionally, this bug is over five years since being reported, and is a well known issue and has patches for every distro. This bug should be deleted like most of the others for Evolution. 

Clearly the development team doesn't use or maintain any of the bugs here. They fix whatever they want with a disregard to issues that are show incredibly critical like this one.

Recommendation: Use Evolution as if it were Outlook. If it's broken, there isn't much you can do or say about it. Write your own patches, or find a distro that cares about this stuff and maintains a reasonable patch set.

5 years and counting ..... it's a really simple patch as well.
Comment 20 André Klapper 2009-09-15 22:42:37 UTC
Feel free to provide the "simple patch" if it's that simple.... You seem to know the codebase if you can do such statements.
Comment 21 Bharath Acharya 2010-03-25 05:10:12 UTC
*** Bug 317153 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 22 Bharath Acharya 2010-03-25 05:14:37 UTC
Updating the version. Still valid against 2.30.x
Comment 23 Akhil Laddha 2010-03-25 10:39:26 UTC
*** Bug 613874 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 24 Akhil Laddha 2010-09-03 04:07:43 UTC
*** Bug 628628 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 25 Yann 2010-09-11 04:31:47 UTC
I have the problem when testing Maverick's Evolution in VirtualBox inside Lucid.
I cannot see the bottom "Next" button, even when hiding the top and bottom panels.
Comment 26 André Klapper 2010-09-12 11:57:33 UTC
Yann: Not helpful. At least tell us the screen resolution that you use. Thanks.
Comment 27 Yann 2010-09-12 12:15:33 UTC
Created attachment 170077 [details]
screenshot of the situation in 800x600 Maverick in VirtualBox

800x600. This is the default resolution of my VirtualBox (I did not change any VB setting)

Of course it becomes worst if if change to 640x480.
Comment 28 Matthew Barnes 2011-03-21 22:38:48 UTC
*** Bug 645459 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 29 Matthew Barnes 2011-04-19 12:09:52 UTC
*** Bug 648185 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 30 Peter Robinson 2011-04-19 14:23:07 UTC
This is fixes when running as "evolution --express" but the problem after that is:
1) it doesn't have the option to always start evolution in that mode, or to always start it in that mode if less that a certain resolution
2) preferences and other related things have the issue as well (not technically this bug as it explicitly mentions the wizard but its evo as a whole)
3) there are other random dialogs that have issues as well.

Although now that meego basically don't care about the netbook spin I'm not sure how much attention the express version will get as this bug has been open for 7 years will no movement.
Comment 31 satellit 2011-04-19 16:30:54 UTC
<alt> <f7> drag with un-clicked mouse (click to stop drag) works to move the screen up to see the bottom. Works with gnome3-shell 3.0.0 and Evolution startup screens on EeePC900
Comment 32 Matthew Barnes 2011-06-09 18:52:13 UTC
*** Bug 652226 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 33 Michael Wiktowy 2011-06-09 19:22:49 UTC
*7 years*! ... and a solution for this hasn't been found? I am sorry for filing a duplicate bug but I didn't think to search back *7 years* for this issue.

Looking at this list:

There is only about 10 out of the 88 models listed that have over 600 pixels of vertical resolution and out of those 10, most are 768 pixels.

I know that is seemed like it in the desktop world 7 years ago but I really don't think that this reduced resolution is going away soon (or ever) and having to use hidden alt+left-click drag or alt+F7 drag tricks is a lot more user hostile than adding some scroll bars when individual elements can't be shrunk.
Comment 34 André Klapper 2011-06-09 20:39:19 UTC
Please avoid non-technical comments that don't add any additional technical value to this bug report and just create bugmail for everybody, or feel free to help with patches, or get a support contract with a GNOME-related company that will fix this for you.
Plus age of a bug report is a completely irrelevant criterion for... something.

Thanks for your understanding.
Comment 35 Matthew Barnes 2012-01-21 21:47:09 UTC
*** Bug 668409 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 36 Hubert Figuiere (:hub) 2012-01-21 21:53:30 UTC
We should retitle to "too high for 1366x768 screens".
Comment 37 Hubert Figuiere (:hub) 2012-01-21 21:54:43 UTC
And I have to add: getting a bigger screen ain't an option. This is a laptop.
Comment 38 Milan Crha 2012-10-29 20:04:39 UTC
Since 3.6.0 the New Account Wizard has 722x566 pixels, which should make it in both 800x600 and 1366x768, thus I'm closing this as fixed in 3.6.0+.
Comment 39 Wendall Cada 2012-10-29 20:38:17 UTC
Ah, so this HAS NOT been fixed. Just the specific issue that the original reporter added several years ago. 800x600 was an example, not specifically the exact bug. Really the issue is that Evolution dialogs have issues at lower resolutions. I know for a fact that this has not been fixed for my eeepc 901 at 1024x600. For the New Account Wizard, yes, but several other dialogs, no.

Are you suggesting that all the years of work merging all of the dialog size issues into this bug be thrown out? Or have all these issue been resolved?
Comment 40 Milan Crha 2012-10-30 07:23:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #39)
> Are you suggesting that all the years of work merging all of the dialog size
> issues into this bug be thrown out? Or have all these issue been resolved?

I've no idea what you are talking about. This particular bug is about New Account Wizard, and it IS fixed now.