GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 262546
First-time wizard windows too high for 800x600
Last modified: 2012-10-30 07:23:31 UTC
Please fill in this template when reporting a bug, unless you know what you are doing. Description of Problem: The first-time wizard's windows are far too high to be used on 800x600 displays. Maybe you should do like ethereal did, and widen them instead? Steps to reproduce the problem: 1. Tune your resolution to 800x600 (or, if like me, that is the highest you have, you don't have to do this) 2. Start evolution for the first time 3. Try and guess how you can hit the forward-button when it's offscreen Actual Results: Wizard unusable Expected Results: Wizard usable How often does this happen? Every time Additional Information: Bigscreen nazis
This is a bug for UI design. It's primarily because of the HIG requirements on spacing, and the number of options to configure.
We can't see how to fix this properly for 2.0 since we are essentially frozen now and this would take a redesign, plus we are redoing a lot of the configuration stuff anyhow for 2.2 as part of EPlugin, sorry about that :-(.
Also unusable in 800x600 is Evolution Settings window
Punting this to 2.3 where we'll be looking into Druid changes and fixing some of the lower resolution issues.
in order to destroy the UI component (as discussed with jpr, dobey, and nags), changing component and reassigning. adding usability keyword. developers, please reassign appropriately if necessary. adding dependency.
It's worth nothing, for Metacity >= 2.13.2, that if the window doesn't have a minimum size hint larger than the screen then Metacity will now force such windows to be onscreen (by shrinking and moving them as necessary). If the window has a minimum size hint larger than the screen, then the user can use alt+left-click-and-drag (or alt+f7 and then the arrow keys) to move the window upwards (including moving the titlebar offscreen) in order to get to the forward button. Yeah, that's just a workaround for windows that are too large, but it may be helpful information for those waiting for the UI changes to make the window usable on 800x600 resolutions. :)
removing ancient target milestones, sorry
*** Bug 360826 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Ugh, what a typo. Anyway, It's worth nothing should have been It's worth noting which has a much different meaning (in reference to comment 6).
Should we make an 800x600 resolution tracker bug? Or are all these bugs actually talking about the same window? (Bug 350932, bug 239706, bug 244429, bug 267787, and bug 262546?)
*** Bug 440049 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
This bug has been open for several years. Will evolution ever support 800x600 resolution? If not, would be very good to have that information, so I can quit beating my head against the wall with users and recommend something else. Why this bug and all the issues related to it have not been marked critical is beyond me. It renders the product entirely useless for this resolution. Some hardware DOES NOT support larger than this resolution, especially small laptops.
*** Bug 534189 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 563054 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
There are downstream patches at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18946858/patches.tar.gz from https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/8629 .
Evolution needs a more compact layout, for lower resolutions in general. The calendar isn't usable at 800x600 either.
i downloaded the version online, uninstalled the previous version and found myself with the same situation. then it occurred to me... why not use a keyboard shortcut. i noticed that the "next" button is marked "forward" so i hit alt + f and guess what, i was able to successfully install the program. i will keep this in mind for the future but maybe it can help someone out so i am posting it here.
It should be marked dupe of bug 267787 ?
@comment 18 This is the oldest bug. All others should be being marked as duplicates of this one. Additionally, this bug is over five years since being reported, and is a well known issue and has patches for every distro. This bug should be deleted like most of the others for Evolution. Clearly the development team doesn't use or maintain any of the bugs here. They fix whatever they want with a disregard to issues that are show incredibly critical like this one. Recommendation: Use Evolution as if it were Outlook. If it's broken, there isn't much you can do or say about it. Write your own patches, or find a distro that cares about this stuff and maintains a reasonable patch set. 5 years and counting ..... it's a really simple patch as well.
Feel free to provide the "simple patch" if it's that simple.... You seem to know the codebase if you can do such statements.
*** Bug 317153 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Updating the version. Still valid against 2.30.x
*** Bug 613874 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 628628 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I have the problem when testing Maverick's Evolution in VirtualBox inside Lucid. I cannot see the bottom "Next" button, even when hiding the top and bottom panels.
Yann: Not helpful. At least tell us the screen resolution that you use. Thanks.
Created attachment 170077 [details] screenshot of the situation in 800x600 Maverick in VirtualBox 800x600. This is the default resolution of my VirtualBox (I did not change any VB setting) Of course it becomes worst if if change to 640x480.
*** Bug 645459 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 648185 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
This is fixes when running as "evolution --express" but the problem after that is: 1) it doesn't have the option to always start evolution in that mode, or to always start it in that mode if less that a certain resolution 2) preferences and other related things have the issue as well (not technically this bug as it explicitly mentions the wizard but its evo as a whole) 3) there are other random dialogs that have issues as well. Although now that meego basically don't care about the netbook spin I'm not sure how much attention the express version will get as this bug has been open for 7 years will no movement.
<alt> <f7> drag with un-clicked mouse (click to stop drag) works to move the screen up to see the bottom. Works with gnome3-shell 3.0.0 and Evolution startup screens on EeePC900
*** Bug 652226 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*7 years*! ... and a solution for this hasn't been found? I am sorry for filing a duplicate bug but I didn't think to search back *7 years* for this issue. Looking at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Netbooks There is only about 10 out of the 88 models listed that have over 600 pixels of vertical resolution and out of those 10, most are 768 pixels. I know that is seemed like it in the desktop world 7 years ago but I really don't think that this reduced resolution is going away soon (or ever) and having to use hidden alt+left-click drag or alt+F7 drag tricks is a lot more user hostile than adding some scroll bars when individual elements can't be shrunk.
Please avoid non-technical comments that don't add any additional technical value to this bug report and just create bugmail for everybody, or feel free to help with patches, or get a support contract with a GNOME-related company that will fix this for you. Plus age of a bug report is a completely irrelevant criterion for... something. Thanks for your understanding.
*** Bug 668409 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
We should retitle to "too high for 1366x768 screens".
And I have to add: getting a bigger screen ain't an option. This is a laptop.
Since 3.6.0 the New Account Wizard has 722x566 pixels, which should make it in both 800x600 and 1366x768, thus I'm closing this as fixed in 3.6.0+.
Ah, so this HAS NOT been fixed. Just the specific issue that the original reporter added several years ago. 800x600 was an example, not specifically the exact bug. Really the issue is that Evolution dialogs have issues at lower resolutions. I know for a fact that this has not been fixed for my eeepc 901 at 1024x600. For the New Account Wizard, yes, but several other dialogs, no. Are you suggesting that all the years of work merging all of the dialog size issues into this bug be thrown out? Or have all these issue been resolved?
(In reply to comment #39) > Are you suggesting that all the years of work merging all of the dialog size > issues into this bug be thrown out? Or have all these issue been resolved? I've no idea what you are talking about. This particular bug is about New Account Wizard, and it IS fixed now.