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Bug 676897 - Remove tree side bar
Remove tree side bar
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: nautilus
Classification: Core
Component: general
unspecified
Other All
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: Nautilus Maintainers
Nautilus Maintainers
: 697739 710589 729749 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2012-05-26 19:40 UTC by William Jon McCann
Modified: 2014-05-11 08:52 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
Remove tree side bar (121.98 KB, patch)
2012-05-26 19:40 UTC, William Jon McCann
reviewed Details | Review
Remove tree side bar (121.70 KB, patch)
2012-05-27 16:52 UTC, William Jon McCann
committed Details | Review
Fix master for the removal of the tree view in the sidebar (629 bytes, patch)
2012-05-31 20:42 UTC, Andreas Proschofsky
committed Details | Review

Description William Jon McCann 2012-05-26 19:40:31 UTC
The tree side bar is really odd and hard to use and inconsistent with every
other application.
Comment 1 William Jon McCann 2012-05-26 19:40:33 UTC
Created attachment 215059 [details] [review]
Remove tree side bar

It is inconsistent with the file chooser, doesn't work well with
touch, is really hard to use, and isn't consistent with any other
GNOME 3 apps.
Comment 2 André Klapper 2012-05-26 21:13:36 UTC
Outlining the arguments is very welcome - terms like "hard to use" or "really odd" do not have any meaning, are highly subjective and don't help to understand intentions of removing such functionality at all.
I don't understand (yet) from this report *why* you want to remove it.
Comment 3 Cosimo Cecchi 2012-05-27 03:54:31 UTC
Review of attachment 215059 [details] [review]:

Why are you also removing the option to hide the sidebar?

Anyway, the choice to remove this is in line with the one that removed the extra panes - the tree sidebar is just a less-powerful list view embedded in the sidebar pane. Consistency with other parts of GNOME is also good.
Comment 4 William Jon McCann 2012-05-27 16:52:51 UTC
Created attachment 215100 [details] [review]
Remove tree side bar

It is inconsistent with the file chooser, doesn't work well with
touch, is really hard to use, and isn't consistent with any other
GNOME 3 apps.
Comment 5 William Jon McCann 2012-05-27 16:53:47 UTC
Agreed. That should have been a separate bug/patch. Filed bug 676929 for that.
Comment 6 Cosimo Cecchi 2012-05-31 14:05:34 UTC
Attachment 215100 [details] pushed as 253d4bf - Remove tree side bar

Since I made some changes to related files in the meanwhile, I saved you the effort of rebasing this on top of master, and pushed an updated version that applies cleanly.
Comment 7 Andreas Proschofsky 2012-05-31 18:34:55 UTC
You seem to have missed something during the commit, at least nautilus doesn't start for me anymore with master. Also I get

Settings schema 'org.gnome.nautilus.sidebar-panels.tree' is not installed

in the terminal...
Comment 8 Cosimo Cecchi 2012-05-31 18:53:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> You seem to have missed something during the commit, at least nautilus doesn't
> start for me anymore with master. Also I get
> 
> Settings schema 'org.gnome.nautilus.sidebar-panels.tree' is not installed
> 
> in the terminal...

I think you forgot to make install after building or something - I just tried with a fresh build and it works fine with no errors here.
Comment 9 Andreas Proschofsky 2012-05-31 19:30:28 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> 
> I think you forgot to make install after building or something - I just tried
> with a fresh build and it works fine with no errors here.

This is with gentoo (live ebuild), so a missing make install is definitely not the issue here (this is run automatically, each new build is "clean"). But if you say it works fine for you, maybe it's just some local issue I'm missing :-/
Comment 10 Andreas Proschofsky 2012-05-31 20:41:02 UTC
@Cosimo: Digging a little deeper, a grep of master shows me the following ;)

grep -i -r "sidebar-panels.tree" nautilus-9999/

nautilus-9999/libnautilus-private/nautilus-global-preferences.c:	nautilus_tree_sidebar_preferences = g_settings_new("org.gnome.nautilus.sidebar-panels.tree");

So I guess it's no surprise that it breaks ;) Could it be that you still have the old schema installed and don't see the problem because of that?

Anyway, removing that line fixes the problem as expected.
Comment 11 Andreas Proschofsky 2012-05-31 20:42:25 UTC
Created attachment 215365 [details] [review]
Fix master for the removal of the tree view in the sidebar
Comment 12 Cosimo Cecchi 2012-05-31 20:53:05 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)

> So I guess it's no surprise that it breaks ;) Could it be that you still have
> the old schema installed and don't see the problem because of that?

You're right - sorry about this. I pushed that to master now

http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=6774c9888cbfdaca360a14e41a79c3a359dba828
Comment 13 Fernando Miguel 2012-06-19 23:55:15 UTC
as a long time GNOME user, i would like to manifest my opinion on this matter.
i disagree with the removel of the side tree.

I use it a lot to drag files between folders. 
with this removal i can no longer do that!

for me that is a seriours drop in a required feature :(
Comment 14 Holger Koch 2012-06-20 08:36:44 UTC
Same here. The first thing I do after a fresh Ubuntu install is to change the default side bar view of Nautilus to tree view. It provides the best way to have an overview of the hierarchy of my folder tree and for drag and drop functionality. It is an essential feature for me. If it is removed I would definetly have to look for another file manager. Some people might consider it 'ugly' (I don't), but despite this it has its value and it isn't the default view anyway. Please, give people choice. Leave it as an option.
Thank you.
Comment 15 Dick Thomas 2012-06-20 10:19:16 UTC
I'd also like to add my 2 cent that this is a important feature of the desktop 
UI and while it might not be good for touch I'm sure the non touch users out weigh the touch users and if you are going to do this it should be an option not a permanent feature for all users
Comment 16 simplew8 2012-07-30 18:10:29 UTC
After installing Mageia Cauldron (that now has gnome3) i was also very disapointed to see that in nautilus theres no option to have the tree in sidebar.
It existed fine as an option, so the touch users would have to simply avoid it, there wasnt any conflict so doesnt make anysense to remove it.

Due to this i have tried KDE and im starting to see that things in KDE make a lot more sense and apepars to be much more well developed and planned.
Comment 17 petter 2012-08-24 03:44:45 UTC
This sounds like a terrible idea. It eliminates a common use case of moving files without requiring extra clicks via Move to or similar UI elements. Additionally, the fact of the matter is that the FS *is* basically a tree structure, which means that the absence of a tree view leaves GNOME with a file manager incapable of displaying a representative view of the file system!

I might be persuaded that it’s not a suitable default option, but what on Earth is the rationale for removing it altogether? (Let’s please keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of GNOME installations are not touch interfaces.)
Comment 18 simplew8 2012-08-29 23:07:02 UTC
Seams some gnome developers are losing the touch with reality, and seeing this is sad.
Comment 19 Didier G 2013-01-05 16:13:08 UTC
I just installed new Fedora 18 with gnome-shell 3.6.2 and nautilus 3.6.3.

I am very disappointed by the suppression of the tree view in side panel (and also by the non recursive search).

This functionality is really mandatory in a files manager and I don't see how it is possible to work daily with nautilus to manage files without it.
Comment 20 Edouard 2013-01-07 07:27:06 UTC
Same here, + the suppression on the extra pane (f3). And still no way to friendly use emblems?
Comment 21 André Klapper 2013-01-07 11:02:39 UTC
Edouard: Please ask in some forum for off-topic stuff like emblems. This report is about the tree side bar and this is not a forum. Thanks.
Comment 22 Edouard 2013-01-07 16:56:30 UTC
My main concern is tree side bar (among the others), sorry if I was not clear. 

BTW Do you mean, as a gnome user and about removed/missing features, I will have more success to be heard in a forum than here in a bugzilla?
Comment 23 André Klapper 2013-01-07 23:04:49 UTC
In general: "Me too" comments only to express disagreement and missing any new and relevant arguments are NOT welcome here.
Comment 24 Edouard 2013-01-08 07:19:43 UTC
my argument is I was using tree view to efficiently move around files (in different long paths), on small screen/resolution (10" or less). Side to side nautilus windows is not possible, tabs is not great too. 
My "me too" was a response to comment 19, I'm on F18 too, and a bit dissapointed too.
is this comment better?
Comment 25 Cosimo Cecchi 2013-04-10 17:49:43 UTC
*** Bug 697739 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 26 André Klapper 2014-05-11 08:52:43 UTC
*** Bug 710589 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 27 André Klapper 2014-05-11 08:52:57 UTC
*** Bug 729749 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***