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Bug 348330 - Tracker: Integrated PPP support: Missing PSTN dial-up networking
Tracker: Integrated PPP support: Missing PSTN dial-up networking
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: NetworkManager
Classification: Platform
Component: PPP
git master
Other All
: Normal enhancement
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Assigned To: Dan Williams
NetworkManager maintainer(s)
: 354068 458014 506060 555040 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: 352325 362482
 
 
Reported: 2006-07-22 13:59 UTC by Stefano Pedretti
Modified: 2020-11-12 14:34 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Stefano Pedretti 2006-07-22 13:59:14 UTC
Should be nice to integrate also dialup support in NetworkManager in future.
Comment 1 Dan Williams 2006-07-22 15:13:37 UTC
Which distribution are you using?  There's already some dialup support in the SUSE and Fedora backends, and later this year more integrated PPP dialup support will be landing.  But if you distro backend has it, it should work...
Comment 2 Stefano Pedretti 2006-07-23 20:14:15 UTC
Yes, there is a good support in Suse and Fedora, but i think NetworkManager could manage also PPP connections, near wire and wireless ones.
For istance, in ubuntu 6.06 you must use gnome-system-tools that has poor support in dialup.
I hope for the future a single well integrated interface to manage ALL network connections for a box, with a single applet to manage that. I think NetworkManager could be a great candidate for this work.
Comment 3 Sven Herzberg 2006-11-29 13:55:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Which distribution are you using?  There's already some dialup support in the
> SUSE and Fedora backends, and later this year more integrated PPP dialup
> support will be landing.  But if you distro backend has it, it should work...

I'm not very familiar with network-manager (except for using it). What exactly do you mean by »backends«? pppd? I'd like to get this working on my box and right now I can't tell whether it's NM's fault or the fault of my distributor (which seems to be the case according to you comment).
Comment 4 Stefano Pedretti 2006-11-29 17:20:45 UTC
On the last ubuntu (6.10) networkmanager still does not supply pppoe or dialup configuration. Good work guys
Comment 5 Dan Williams 2006-12-04 03:43:20 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > Which distribution are you using?  There's already some dialup support in the
> > SUSE and Fedora backends, and later this year more integrated PPP dialup
> > support will be landing.  But if you distro backend has it, it should work...
> 
> I'm not very familiar with network-manager (except for using it). What exactly
> do you mean by »backends«? pppd? I'd like to get this working on my box and
> right now I can't tell whether it's NM's fault or the fault of my distributor
> (which seems to be the case according to you comment).
> 

NM has distribution specific backends for certain operations, and hooking into the dialup config is one of those.  If you look at src/backends/NetworkManagerRedHat.c, you'll see:

nm_system_deactivate_all_dialup
nm_system_deactivate_dialup
nm_system_activate_dialup
nm_system_get_dialup_config

These functions need to be implemented for your backend.  This support is pretty half-assed though, and will be replaced in the next few months with a much better integrated solution that talks directly to wvdial and pppd, but only in HEAD.  So a patch would be quite welcome for your distro for the stable branch.
Comment 6 Ritesh Khadgaray ( irc:ritz) 2007-05-14 15:47:15 UTC
Using Fedora7 ( rawhide ), and i was able to connect via dialup using

NM -> Dial up Connection -> Connect to dial_up_network

I am able to verify i am connected via ifconfig, but nm-applet thinks i'am not connected to network, and as a result i cannot connect to VPN bugzilla#354068 .

Additionally, nm-tool does not list ppp0 interface .
Comment 7 Ritesh Khadgaray ( irc:ritz) 2007-05-14 16:00:50 UTC
it seems nm 0.7 handles dial-up connection, atleast on ubuntu .
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2007-May/msg00081.html

Fedora7 runs nm 0.6.5 :(
Comment 8 Dan Williams 2007-12-07 15:55:16 UTC
this is now the PPP support tracker bug for 0.7.
Comment 9 Dan Williams 2007-12-07 15:55:33 UTC
*** Bug 458014 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Christopher Aillon 2007-12-28 20:17:09 UTC
*** Bug 506060 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Dan Williams 2008-01-06 15:12:39 UTC
*** Bug 354068 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 Nicola Soranzo 2008-05-20 13:21:25 UTC
Just want to remind that PPP support should also include xDSL connections through USB modems, otherwise Firefox, Pidgin are going to think I'm offline (as it's happening right now in Fedora 9...)
Comment 13 Casual J. Programmer 2008-06-10 05:43:41 UTC
What is actually happening on this issue ? I was able to connect to dial up connections with NetworkManager with openSUSE 10.3, now I have to use Kinternet. Really a major advance in usability..
Comment 14 Dan Williams 2008-06-10 20:42:09 UTC
PPP support is there for mobile broadband (3G) cards and thus the basis is there for POTS dialup as well.  We're still working on dialup but things are moving.
Comment 15 Dan Williams 2008-10-06 10:55:48 UTC
*** Bug 555040 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 16 Pieter Smit 2008-10-15 22:06:50 UTC
Just upgraded to latest Ubuntu 8.10 Beta.
It has Network Manager 0.7.0

What i miss is ppp dialup, for pppoe adsl.
By selecting "VPN Connections > Configure VPN"
i can edit the settings manually i can get to the DSL tab.
I add a pppoe network here, the problem is it appears under the "Wired Network's" section and not as a dialup i can start in addition to the Ethernet/Wifi connection.

I also added a 3G connection under the "Mobile Broadband" but it does not show in the menu as a option i can connect to.



Comment 17 Dan Williams 2008-10-15 22:42:33 UTC
(In reply to comment #16)
> Just upgraded to latest Ubuntu 8.10 Beta.
> It has Network Manager 0.7.0
> 
> What i miss is ppp dialup, for pppoe adsl.
> By selecting "VPN Connections > Configure VPN"
> i can edit the settings manually i can get to the DSL tab.
> I add a pppoe network here, the problem is it appears under the "Wired
> Network's" section and not as a dialup i can start in addition to the
> Ethernet/Wifi connection.

PPPoE is only supported on wired devices at the moment, that will be fixed.

> I also added a 3G connection under the "Mobile Broadband" but it does not show
> in the menu as a option i can connect to.

That probably means your 3G device either (a) isn't recognized as a 3G device by HAL, and/or (b) isn't connected.

What mobile broadband device do you have, and is it plugged in?

Comment 18 Casual J. Programmer 2008-12-28 08:18:00 UTC
This is really a nuisance. Using mobile broadband ( GPRS with Sony Ericsson W800i ) over bluetooth is still only possible by switching off NetworkManager alltogether and use ifup in combination with Kinternet. Currently using opensuse 11.1 final.

Neither configuration nor usage are possible via NetworkManager. Good job, guys.

Priority should be higher than normal, severity should be at least major. Why this is treated as enhancement is over my head, as this used to work in older versions.
Comment 19 Olivier Mehani 2009-07-05 21:02:22 UTC
Ubuntu Jaunty now ships with 0.7.1. It still misses PPP dialup options. It's not clear whether from this bug report whether this is a work in progress or if it has been ditched.

Can somebody shed a clearer light about it?

I really think PPP dialup should be integrated in the NetworkManager as this is still a normal (if rare) use-case for people to get various network connection over landline modems.
Comment 20 Luke 2010-02-16 23:07:56 UTC
Even now, at the dawn of a new century... Gnome Network Manager lacks the classic PPP0.

PLEASE GET DIAL-UP SUPPORT BACK!
This is essential for me because no other services are offered where I'm from. As of Ubuntu 8.04 it was discontinued, I beg of you to not discontinue support for Dial-up! This effects all distros and greatly hurts linux as an entirety because some distros do not come shipped with gnome-ppp, in such cases there is no way possible to "dial-up" and get it. Meaning unless it supports a packaging system and you know how to get the multiple dependencies (wvdial, etc, etc.) it is impossible to use the internet at all!... 

So, once again... please please... get support back. :)
Comment 21 Hedayat Vatankhah 2010-07-11 08:24:33 UTC
Is it going to happen?!
Comment 22 Pavel Simerda 2012-07-27 01:23:53 UTC
It's there. Feel free to file specific bug reports.
Comment 23 Iain Gatt 2012-07-27 13:47:06 UTC
This bug was initially created for POTS dial-up support in NetworkManager. 

Downstream bugs e.g. Ubuntu and Fedora, still link to it for dial-up POTS; also marked bugzilla duplicates.

Can this bug be re-opened?
Comment 24 Pavel Simerda 2012-07-27 15:17:45 UTC
Thanks,

changing the summary.
Comment 25 Dan Winship 2013-05-02 16:03:38 UTC
NM bugzilla reorganization... sorry for the bug spam.
Comment 26 Luke 2013-08-17 21:34:53 UTC
This is a very important bug, which has sadly been ignored for the past seven years. Dial-up obviously still plays a role in the lives of people who have no other way of connecting:
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/14/143721874/in-cuba-dial-up-internet-is-a-luxury
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-12-06/lifestyle/35288255_1_servers-andrew-lewis-activists

Looking forward to a "Dial-Up" tab right in gnome-network-manager next to "Wired" connections. By dialup I mean PPP, gnome-ppp style. Else we will have to port wvdial and use it for life, buggy as it is...  :)
Comment 27 Luke 2013-08-26 03:05:20 UTC
Hi everyone. 
This issue is a big deal for me, so I'm willing to pay USD 50.00 for it.
This offer is registered on FreedomSponsors (http://freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/332/gnome-network-manager-integrated-ppp-dial-up-modem-support).
If you solve it (according to the acceptance criteria described there), please register on FreedomSponsors and mark it as resolved there
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Comment 28 Alan 2016-08-13 15:39:03 UTC
This feature would be valuable for Tails: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/5543
Comment 29 André Klapper 2020-11-12 14:34:53 UTC
bugzilla.gnome.org is being shut down in favor of a GitLab instance. 
We are closing all old bug reports and feature requests in GNOME Bugzilla which have not seen updates for a long time.

If you still use NetworkManager and if you still see this bug / want this feature in a recent and supported version of NetworkManager, then please feel free to report it at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/issues/

Thank you for creating this report and we are sorry it could not be implemented (workforce and time is unfortunately limited).