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Bug 98909 - [ui-review] Panel context menu UI issues
[ui-review] Panel context menu UI issues
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: gnome-panel
Classification: Other
Component: panel
2.1.x
Other other
: Normal minor
: ---
Assigned To: Panel Maintainers
Panel Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks: 115436
 
 
Reported: 2002-11-18 18:45 UTC by Andrew Sobala
Modified: 2004-12-22 21:47 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.3/2.4



Description Andrew Sobala 2002-11-18 18:45:51 UTC
UI review:

- seperator in between the two about entries if keeping both
- too many entries with 'button'
-- possibly create an 'Actions' submenu?
--- Actions > Lock Screen etc.. mirrors menu panel
- s/Launcher from Menu/Application
- s/Launcher.../Other Application
- _Add to Panel and _About GNOME have same mnemonic (hmmm, on mine this is
"About _GNOME" but I'll submit it anyway)
- Accessories needs an icon
Comment 1 Mark Finlay 2002-11-18 20:46:06 UTC
I think that the "Launcher form Menu" item should be removed, not renamed.

It is a bad way to do what you can now do via the Applications Menu.
IMHO It was a messy workaround for 2.0 and should be removed now that
we have the equivelent functionality where it should be.
Comment 2 Eugene O'Connor 2002-11-24 16:09:59 UTC
Re:
s/Launcher from menu/Application
s/Launcher.../Other Application...

I disagree with this change for the following reasons:

* Launcher is specific and clear, and tells you what the object does
* Both application and launcher are defined in the GDSG, and the use 
in the Add to Panel menu complies with these definitions. 
* An object on a panel that starts an application is not an 
application. 
* The term launcher is used in more places than in the Add to Panel 
menu - there are three types of launcher:

1. Nautilus launcher 
2. Panel launcher
3. Menu launcher 

The UI contains lots of references to these launchers. If the term 
launcher is unsatisfactory then we need to agree a replacement term 
and implement that throughout the UI. The UI would be inconsistent if 
we replace one instance of the term. 

Also the suggested replacement doesn't accurately describe what a 
launcher is.

Also note that Mac uses launcher. Windows uses shortcut.
Comment 3 Eugene O'Connor 2002-11-24 16:38:06 UTC
Also

s/GNOME Menu/Main Menu

This change also needs to be made in the tooltip of the Main Menu 
panel object. Here's the argument for this change: 
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2002-November/msg00218.html
Comment 4 Alan Horkan 2002-11-24 18:57:55 UTC
I think i think someone from usability (i forget who maybe Anna
Dirks?) mentioned that "Shortcuts" generally made more sense to people
than Launcher.  
Launcher makes me think of the program on the mac that runs at startup
and presents you with buttons so that you can easily start various
frequently used programs.  (dont think Gnome has one of those, IMO it
is useful but annoying for more advanced users).  
Comment 5 Mark McLoughlin 2002-12-04 03:27:55 UTC
> - seperator in between the two about entries if keeping both

done

> - too many entries with 'button'
> -- possibly create an 'Actions' submenu?
> --- Actions > Lock Screen etc.. mirrors menu panel

This was changed since the review. We now have a "Button" submenu with
all these.

> - s/Launcher from Menu/Application
> - s/Launcher.../Other Application

I'm with Eugene on this one.

> - _Add to Panel and _About GNOME have same mnemonic (hmmm, on mine
>   this is "About _GNOME" but I'll submit it anyway)

Yeah, its About _GNOME here too.

> - Accessories needs an icon

I think there's a seperate bug on that - long standing issue. There's
nothing I can do about it really so I'd prefer it as a seperate bug.

> - s/GNOME Menu/Main Menu

Done.


2002-12-04  Mark McLoughlin  <mark@skynet.ie>

        Fix ui-review issues in #98909.

        * menu.c:
        (create_panel_submenu): add seperater between
        'about' menu items.
        (make_add_submenu), (add_menu_widget),
        (create_panel_menu): s/GNOME Menu/Main Menu/g


Comment 6 Glynn Foster 2002-12-04 10:28:07 UTC
Can I be a pest and say that the button submenu completely blows? I
much prefer the UI review suggestion of mirroring the Actions menu here. 

ie.

Add to Panel > Action > Log Out
                        Lock Screen
                        ....

I think Action is more descriptive than button - why do we have
buttons and launchers? What's the difference between a button and a
launcher? I'd quite like to see some discussion on this. cc'ing
usability-maint.
Comment 7 Vincent Untz 2002-12-19 21:39:39 UTC
> - s/Launcher from Menu/Application
> - s/Launcher.../Other Application

For the record, there's a bug about this: bug #75103.
Comment 8 Calum Benson 2002-12-24 12:16:51 UTC
So, the ui-review suggestion was:

Add to Panel -> ..
                ..
                --
                Applications >
                Action >
                --
                Other Application...
                --
                Main Menu

right?  I think I kind of prefer that too, although I'm not sure
"Other Application..." is quite distinct enough from "Applications >".
Comment 9 Mark McLoughlin 2003-06-18 12:59:09 UTC
Yeah, I think s/Launcher from menu/Application/ could work quite well.
But Other Application... kind of blows and I'm not sure I'm too keen
on the idea of having seperators and thus having the Main Menu, Menu
Bar and Drawer totally isolated ....
Comment 10 Bryan W Clark 2003-12-20 20:47:42 UTC
I'm closing this bug since it appears we have all the additions in
here already commited.  Feel free to re-open if I missed something. 
Some of the unresolved issues are on going in bug #75103.