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Bug 79348 - 'getting involved' should be most prominent thing in d.g.o.
'getting involved' should be most prominent thing in d.g.o.
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: website
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: developer.gnome.org
current
Other other
: Normal normal
: 2.20
Assigned To: Quim Gil
GNOME Web maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2002-04-20 21:00 UTC by Luis Villa
Modified: 2012-01-14 09:47 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Luis Villa 2002-04-20 21:00:49 UTC
Basically, GNOME needs new developers. The best way to do that is to lower
the barriers to entry for new developers. That needs to start with the
website. In fact, I really think that getting new people in and involved is
probably the most important job of the website, as it is the first thing
that newbies will go to, while more experienced hackers go to lists and IRC
for information first. 

My email to gnome-hackers, which includes a lot of links and suggestions:

On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 11:49, Luis Villa wrote:
> -----Forwarded Message-----
> |
> | From: Luis Villa <louie@ximian.com>
> |
> | BTW, for those without copies of the code,
> | http://developer.gnome.org/tools/cvs.html has some good instructions for
> | getting started with GNOME CVS. 
> 
> So, that's the best I could come up with last night for a 'getting
> started with GNOME programming' URL. If we're going to attract new
> hacking blood, as discussed at the BOF at guadec, we've just got to have
> better getting started docs, pointing at stuff like any gtk tutorials we
> have, the HIG guidelines, this CVS page, etc. Unfortunately, I'm
> completely unqualified to write such a page myself :/ but I hope someone
> who is will take the time. We badly need new hackers and something like
> this can help make that happen. Or at least that seemed to be the
> consensus at the BOF...

So after some poking... I found a lot of links, but none of them are
particularly prominent on the web site, or even accessible from there. And
they ought to be. :)

More than anything else:
http://developer.gnome.org/ needs to have 'getting involved' big and at the
top of the page, not buried at the bottom. Ditto for
http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/ .

Some links:

http://developer.gnome.org/documents/joining-gnome/index.html [Really good
bit by Dan Mueth; ought to be more prominent on the web site and could
maybe use a bit of reorganization in the format- maybe even split in to
'joining for hackers' and 'joining for non-hackers.']

http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/book1.html
[coding guidelines. Good stuff for newbies but you have to go to the docs
page to find it.]

http://www.gnome.org/~chema/gnome-love/compiling_faq.html [again, great
stuff that ought to be linked to directly from the 'getting involved' page
and also from http://developer.gnome.org/tools/cvs.html]

Essays on hacking, gnome and otherwise:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-love/2001-May/msg00105.html
http://www106.pair.com/rhp/hacking.html
http://www.advogato.org/article/22.html
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [good points for
newbies coming to a list]

Anyway, I've filed this against the website
Comment 1 Glynn Foster 2002-08-21 10:15:15 UTC
Luis, prepared to put your money where you mouth is with a patch [grin]?
Comment 2 Luis Villa 2002-11-12 16:37:04 UTC
Glynn- Very belatedly, yes, I am, when the new site infrastructure is
up. I refuse to sink time into the old infrastructure (and I suspect
I'm not the only one.)
Comment 3 Murray Cumming 2003-07-25 09:21:03 UTC
Some of these links should be added to 
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.3/helping.html
Comment 4 Quim Gil 2006-09-30 21:14:16 UTC
We are not going to fix this in the current dgo. However, the revamped wgo will have a "Get Involved" section and the new dgo page will have a promo in the same direction. A 'Get Involved' promo is planned in the very wgo homepage as well.

See http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/DeveloperGnomeOrg and http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation

Keeping this bug open until the fix is implemented.
Comment 5 Tiffany Antopolski 2012-01-14 02:50:01 UTC
The current d.g.o is all about 'getting involved', with step-by-step instructions about installing required tools on mulitple distros, beginner tutorials in C, C++, JavaScript, Python and Vala using tools like Anjuta etc.  Links to API references are included, as well as development guides, core library references, development tools, bug tracking and git repository information.  In general, this is and should always remain a work in progress, as things change quickly.  But since now 'getting involved' is the most prominent thing in d.g.o., perhaps this bug can be closed?
Comment 6 Luis Villa 2012-01-14 03:49:03 UTC
Yes, I think it can be. Thanks for finding and flagging it, Tiffany.

[Though I'm tempted to leave it open for a few more months just so we can say we closed a ten year old bug. ;)
Comment 7 Juanjo Marín 2012-01-14 09:47:40 UTC
Related bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656019

Broken links in platform overview in d.g.o