GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 789503
Code points not explained correctly
Last modified: 2017-12-24 17:04:22 UTC
Re: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/tips-specialchars.html The section "Code points" says: "To enter a character by its code point, hold down <Ctrl> and <Shift>, type U followed by the four-character code point, then release <Ctrl> and <Shift>." That does not work for me on Ubuntu 17.10. I need to release <Ctrl> and <Shift> before typing the code point, so I think the sentence should be changed to something like this: "To enter a character by its code point, hold down <Ctrl> and <Shift> while typing U, type the four-character code point, then press <Space> or <Enter>."
Created attachment 362300 [details] [review] code point description changed
> That does not work for me on Ubuntu 17.10. It does work for me on Fedora 27. (Just tried in Firefox' address bar.) So the problem might not be the docs but might be somewhere else? :-/ > "To enter a character by its code point, hold down <Ctrl> and <Shift> while > typing U, type the four-character code point, then press <Space> or <Enter>." That would mean that you never release <Ctrl> and <Shift>... :P
Hmm.. I see now that it works as described if I use the numeric keypad *when NumLock is off*, which isn't very intuitive. To make it work with the numeric keypad with NumLock on, or with the ordinary number keys, I need to release <Ctrl> and <Shift> before I type. If you see the same behavior, I really think this should be changed. And if you agree, please feel free to suggest a better wording.
Cannot test as I don't have a keyboard with a numlock switch. :-/ (And I probably should not have "rejected" the patch as that sounds harsh, sorry - there is definitely something to improve in the docs it seems.)
No problem. Even without a NumLock switch, you should be able to see it if you use the regular number keys on the keyboard.
Would be nice if we could achieve a wording which everyone is comfortable with. There may be a reason to improve the proposed patch. I can mention that in Ubuntu 17.04 we have this wording: https://help.ubuntu.com/17.04/ubuntu-help/tips-specialchars.html#ctrlshiftu
Ping? Anybody who can help finalize this change?
Sorry, I can't test it on a numeric keypad either, but I can see how it can be improved. Rather than saying "hold down Ctrl+Shift while typing U", I would prefer to see it say "press Ctrl+Shift+U, then…" because U+Ctrl+Shift does not work in that order and the phrase is otherwise ambiguous. Will you provide a revised patch?
Created attachment 364514 [details] [review] code point description changed 2 Ok, new patch submitted. I took the opportunity to also replace the reference to the character map with the Characters application.
Review of attachment 364514 [details] [review]: Thanks for your patch, pushed as 10201c1498be1e1b4c8534b803c2b0e01bfc265d.
Comment on attachment 364514 [details] [review] code point description changed 2 Before I saw this bug, I was going to suggest this: To enter a character by its code point, hold down <key>Ctrl</key> and <key>Shift</key>, type <key>U</key>, release <key>Ctrl</key> and <key>Shift</key>, then type the four-character code point followed by <key>Enter</key>. or <steps> <item><p>Hold down <key>Ctrl</key> and <key>Shift</key>.</p></item> <item><p>Type <key>U</key>.</p></item> <item><p>Release <key>Ctrl</key> and <key>Shift</key>.</p></item> <item><p>Type the four-character code point.</p></item> <item><p>Press <key>Enter</key>.</p></item> </steps>