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Bug 785582 - updated Indonesian translation NetworkManager
updated Indonesian translation NetworkManager
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: NetworkManager
Classification: Platform
Component: Translations
1.10.x
Other All
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: NetworkManager maintainer(s)
NetworkManager maintainer(s)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2017-07-30 03:21 UTC by Andika Triwidada
Modified: 2018-02-21 15:04 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
Indonesian translation for NetworkManager nm-1-8 (304.19 KB, text/plain)
2017-07-30 03:21 UTC, Andika Triwidada
Details
Indonesian translation of NetworkManager nm-1-10 (468.47 KB, application/octet-stream)
2018-02-21 09:41 UTC, Andika Triwidada
Details

Description Andika Triwidada 2017-07-30 03:21:44 UTC
Created attachment 356584 [details]
Indonesian translation for NetworkManager nm-1-8

attached is completed Indonesian translation for NetworkManager nm-1-8
Comment 1 Andika Triwidada 2018-02-18 15:41:24 UTC
is it possible to include this updated translation into GNOME 3.28 please ...
Comment 2 Thomas Haller 2018-02-19 17:21:46 UTC
(In reply to Andika Triwidada from comment #1)
> is it possible to include this updated translation into GNOME 3.28 please ...

GNOME 3.28 contains NetworkManager 1.10.x, which is the current stable release.

Is the attached translation for nm-1-8 branch?

In general, translations cannot be copied from one branch to another, without being reviewed (and possibly adjusted) by the translator.
Comment 3 Andika Triwidada 2018-02-19 17:28:11 UTC
(In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #2)
> (In reply to Andika Triwidada from comment #1)
> > is it possible to include this updated translation into GNOME 3.28 please ...
> 
> GNOME 3.28 contains NetworkManager 1.10.x, which is the current stable
> release.
> 
> Is the attached translation for nm-1-8 branch?

Yes

> 
> In general, translations cannot be copied from one branch to another,
> without being reviewed (and possibly adjusted) by the translator.

Where is the 1.10,x branch? is it the same as master?
https://translate.zanata.org/project/view/NetworkManager?dswid=-8914
only lists nm-1-2, nm-1-4, nm-1-6, nm-1-8, and master. All 100% translated into Indonesian.
Comment 4 Thomas Haller 2018-02-19 17:52:41 UTC
We no longer use Zanata and it's outdated. I just switched the Zanata instance to readonly.

We introduced Zanata thinking that this would help translators. However, it seems nobody actually used it (you are the first translator that I heard of using it).

Arguably, we just don't know who was using it, because zanata doesn't offer a way to see who actually did some translations -- contrary to translations that were just imported. Translators continued to open bugzillas with po files  and bypass the zanata mechanism. As we were unable whether the most recent translation was in zanata or came from git, it was a total mess.



I am not a translator, so I don't know how it's usually done.

CC @Piotr, do you know?


In general, look at the upstream branches at 
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/
The only relevant branches are named:
  - "master"
  - "nm-1-10"
  - "nm-1-8"
  - "nm-1-6"
  - "nm-1-4"
   ....
  (+ future versions will also be named "nm-1-XX")
Don't bother about old branches, nm-1-8 is already quite old at this this point and may or may not see another minor release.

I guess the informations from https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject applies.


Sorry about the confusion.
Comment 5 Andika Triwidada 2018-02-19 19:10:16 UTC
Ok, will use git from now on. nm-1-10 translation ported from Zanata's master is 92%. Will reupload after complete.
Comment 6 Piotr Drąg 2018-02-20 15:22:06 UTC
GNOME translators probably didn’t even know about NetworkManager in Zanata, as one: it wasn’t mentioned on https://l10n.gnome.org/module/NetworkManager/, and two: it was on the general Zanata instance, and not the more organized Fedora instance.
Comment 7 Andika Triwidada 2018-02-21 09:41:01 UTC
Created attachment 368695 [details]
Indonesian translation of NetworkManager nm-1-10
Comment 8 Thomas Haller 2018-02-21 10:59:36 UTC
(In reply to Piotr Drąg from comment #6)
> GNOME translators probably didn’t even know about NetworkManager in Zanata,
> as one: it wasn’t mentioned on
> https://l10n.gnome.org/module/NetworkManager/, and two: it was on the
> general Zanata instance, and not the more organized Fedora instance.

The question was more, what is the recommanded way and what I should write to https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager/L10N ? Piotr, any suggestion?


(In reply to Andika Triwidada from comment #7)
> Created attachment 368695 [details]
> Indonesian translation of NetworkManager nm-1-10

Thank you! merged: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=7e7e6a8cb8c324856d100430a86cb6df9d81a4af
Comment 9 Piotr Drąg 2018-02-21 15:04:59 UTC
(In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #8)
> (In reply to Piotr Drąg from comment #6)
> > GNOME translators probably didn’t even know about NetworkManager in Zanata,
> > as one: it wasn’t mentioned on
> > https://l10n.gnome.org/module/NetworkManager/, and two: it was on the
> > general Zanata instance, and not the more organized Fedora instance.
> 
> The question was more, what is the recommanded way and what I should write
> to https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager/L10N ? Piotr, any
> suggestion?
> 

No GNOME translator has read that page. :)

I don’t think there’s a recommended way for external projects. Most fd.o projects use https://www.transifex.com/freedesktop/, but it has caused us problems in the past. Some accept translations on Bugzilla, like PulseAudio.

If you want to use Zanata, we can note that on https://l10n.gnome.org/module/NetworkManager/ and I’m sure you’ll get translations there. I’d suggest using https://fedora.zanata.org/, though (like AppStream-glib is now doing).