GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 765945
Use good defaults and remove the menuitems from the preferences
Last modified: 2021-06-10 21:07:13 UTC
Created attachment 327240 [details] Before and after Having the 'theme variant' menuitem as well as the 'open new terminals in' as menus doesn't look good and doesn't work. Instead, choose good defaults (i.e. light theme and new tabs by default) and allow them to be changed via a checkbox.
> doesn't look good That's just your opinion, not a fact. > and doesn't work Works fine here. > choose good defaults They do have good defaults: 'default' for the theme (i.e. follow the global pref), and 'window' for open-in. (Note that the theme is a tristate, not a boolean.)
It's not "just my opinion" it's where the design of the GNOME desktop is headed. Open the preferences window of Nautilus and you'll see that it's quite similar to my proposal. "doesn't work" as in "doesn't work as a UI solution." I'm sure it changes the values when you select it, you can use almost any widget to change the values of dconf, but not all of them fit.
Created attachment 327298 [details] Improved After some very useful feedback from António Fernandes, it now looks like this:
Re your first proposal: I totally agree with Christian. Re your second proposal: Might be a good direction, but then I guess all the Prefs and Profile Prefs tabs should be reworked to this design.
Shouldn't we follow the GNOME HIG instead (including right-aligned labels, and GtkSwitch instead of GtkCheckButton)? :-) Probably the Colors tab is the trickiest to convert. If there's a nice mockup for that, I won't be worried about the rest. https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/visual-layout.html.en#label-alignment
(In reply to Egmont Koblinger from comment #5) > Shouldn't we follow the GNOME HIG instead (including right-aligned labels, Left-aligned are easier to read, and that's why the the GNOME2 HIG recommended them. I haven't seen the any rationale for the change to right-alignment. > and GtkSwitch instead of GtkCheckButton)? :-) Hard veto from me on GtkSwitch :-)
(In reply to Christian Persch from comment #6) > Left-aligned are easier to read I could quote your first sentence from comment 1 here :) By the way, I don't like right-alignedness, nor GtkSwitch either. So let's forget these aspects of HIG here.
(In reply to Egmont Koblinger from comment #7) > I could quote your first sentence from comment 1 here :) :-) Maybe I was a bit too absolutist, but https://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/unstable/design-text-labels.html.en does prefer left-alignment and the way it was explained back then was that it's easier for the eye to read left-aligned labels because the eye knows where to start reading each line. The exception is when the length of the labels is widely disparate, in which case right-alignment makes sure the label isn't too wide from the thing labelled. To me, that means making labels concise and uniform in length, but of course that also challenging to do esp. for translators.
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