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Bug 749172 - Please add Gnone Tweak Tool options to the Control Center
Please add Gnone Tweak Tool options to the Control Center
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: Other Preferences
unspecified
Other Linux
: Normal normal
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Assigned To: Control-Center Maintainers
Control-Center Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2015-05-09 22:24 UTC by William Moreno
Modified: 2017-07-08 09:44 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
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Description William Moreno 2015-05-09 22:24:22 UTC
Hi

With this bug (0) in Fedora I was asking to add the Gnome Tweak Tool to the Fedora Workstation Image.

But looks like the Community of User (I am included here) like the idea than the options than bring the Gnome Tweak Tool to be included in the gnome-control-center.

0: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1220007

And yes I see (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694629) but community of really want these feature of being included in the control center
Comment 1 William Moreno 2015-05-10 04:30:13 UTC
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930333
Comment 2 Bastien Nocera 2015-05-10 13:06:57 UTC
If we wanted to have everything that's in gnome-tweak-tool inside the control-center, we wouldn't need gnome-tweak-tool in the first place.

If they are particular configurations you feel should be in the GNOME Settings and which aren't, please file separate bugs for each of those, including the reason why you'd need those configurations.

There are plenty of things in gnome-tweak-tool that aren't ever going to get into the GNOME Settings. Here's a non-exhaustive list:
- Themes selection
- Extensions configuration
- Workspace handling
- Hi-Dpi override

Feel free to file bugs explaining the necessity for others.
Comment 3 Sumit Bhardwaj 2015-05-11 03:48:16 UTC
@Bastien Nocera

Understand your points, but could you explain why these two won't be EVER included:
- Themes Selection
- Extension Configuration

Why are these things supported in Gnome if there is no option to configure them? How a user supposed to configure Extensions, if an extension does not provide a UI option for that (which for that matter, most extensions don't) ? Same goes for Themes support.

Rest two, I can understand as they are mostly tweaks, and can cause issues if not handled properly.

Just want to understand Gnome Team's perspective.
Comment 4 Sumit Bhardwaj 2015-05-11 03:56:35 UTC
Sorry for double posting, but if you see, the most heavily used options are (along with the reason why they should be there):

1. Themes Selection (Customization of OS look n feel)
2. Extension Configuration (Customize supported extension)
3. Fonts (and hinting/anti-aliasing/scaling factor) (Customization of OS look n feel)
4. Wallpaper Options (Customization of OS look n feel)

4th one is something I simply don't understand why the wallpaper chooser UI does not provide. Not even a single DE (including other OSs) apart from Gnome misses those options out.

The other 3 options basically let users customize their environment basically which can get boring after using for some time. Adwaita theme is great but might not be that good if you have to use it for life. Same goes for fonts. Windows allows these customizations, KDE allows these customizations, XFCE does. And these DEs and OSs are used by all level of users, how it can be a problem for Gnome user's alone?
Comment 5 Bastien Nocera 2015-05-11 06:46:14 UTC
Because what we provide as customisations now is where we draw the line.
Comment 6 Michael Catanzaro 2015-05-12 02:31:16 UTC
I'd prefer to have discussions about all of these rather than drawing lines. Bastien can be a bit curt sometimes. :)

But this requires making hard choices about what we want to support and what we don't. Alternative themes is going to be a very tough sell because it compromises the identity of the OS, because we have no way to install themes, and because most themes are constantly broken (speaking of GTK+ themes; I suppose gnome-shell themes break less often); extensions have the same problem, although this is a bit easier sell since we have extensions.gnome.org. (Just to give you some background on why these aren't currently supported.)

I recommend bringing this up on desktop-devel-list rather than Bugzilla: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Comment 7 Bastien Nocera 2015-05-12 09:14:40 UTC
(In reply to Michael Catanzaro from comment #6)
> I'd prefer to have discussions about all of these rather than drawing lines.
> Bastien can be a bit curt sometimes. :)

I'm tired tilting at windmills.
Comment 8 Lester Carballo 2017-07-08 05:17:02 UTC
Well, this is another point more to embed the gnome control center modules inside a fork of gnome tweek tools (Gio.io_extension_point_register, "control-center-1") and redirect all calls to one unique settings application... I dislike the chaos of have several unrelated and different application to configured the desktop. I think a direct implementation will be really better... As i will create the chaos with that, but we have any other option?