GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 745968
Large filenames on icon view are hard to read
Last modified: 2021-06-18 15:52:48 UTC
Created attachment 299002 [details] nautilus folder-sizes Default icons size in 3.16 is very large and I need to switch the zoom level to small. There, the distances between the files are limited and large text is wrapping (often( and it makes hard to read filenames, specially on folders where all files have long descriptions (books, videos, etc) On 314, even if the icons were smaller, the padding was bigger this issue wasnt present. Screenshot shows a selected file to hide another file, which another issue. That is a common case on me in Nautilus 316 on small zoom.
Thanks for the self-explained screenshot. Seems the name you are trying to show is "invented" to show the test case. We show up to 3 lines of the name before ellipsizing, and that looks enough for most common uses. Still I will mark it as a ui-review just in case.
(In reply to Carlos Soriano from comment #1) > Thanks for the self-explained screenshot. > Seems the name you are trying to show is "invented" to show the test case. This is the actual case in every e-book or movie name. I will reproduce it with "real" material, when I have my hard disk.
Created attachment 299005 [details] audio-filenames This isn't as clear as on other cases, but still even if the filenames aren't really large, the wrapping makes them hard to read ..or hide them if no selected.
(In reply to alex diavatis from comment #0) > Default icons size in 3.16 is very large and I need to switch the zoom level > to small. Can you elaborate on the use case? Why do you need to switch to small zoom level in order to work with files with long names?
(In reply to António Fernandes from comment #4) > (In reply to alex diavatis from comment #0) > > Default icons size in 3.16 is very large and I need to switch the zoom level > > to small. > > Can you elaborate on the use case? Why do you need to switch to small zoom > level in order to work with files with long names? I dont need to to switch to small zoom level in order to work with files with long names, I "need" to switch to small zoom level in general, because the default size feels inconvenient to me. It makes much harder to quickly "scan" files. Hmm, I thought I had open a different bug, about increasing the zoom level from 3 to 5, but I havent.
I'm experiencing this problem in Ubuntu 16.10 (Nautilus 3.20.3). In 16.04 and earlier versions there was more horizontal space between icons than now. I have thousands of files that I have named myself to fit the wider space that used to be available. Now large part of the names have turned ugly and difficult to read, because many words have lost a letter or more from the end to the next row. Now a file name may have six rows, three of which are full, three having only a couple of letters cut from the word above. That's difficult to read, and certainly not nice looking. The problem is probably worsened by the fact that in Finnish, my native language, words are on average longer than in English. I think that by default there should be at least a little more horizontal space between the icons. Perhaps the default setting should also be different for different languages. Why not make the spacing also user adjustable? Then everybody who is not satisfied with the default could have their needs filled.
I think the problem in comment 6 is that ubuntu uses a different standard icon zoom, which uses a smaller padding. Granted, if you use that icon zoom you will have this problem no matter the distro. This is something we cannot fix without a rework of the views, which is planned, but very hard since it requires also gtk+ work on it. It's not user adjustable for the same reason.
@Carlos All these problems is caused because of weird design decision taken by Gnome. First, all of a sudden you decided to make standard zoom level to 64 instead of 48.(NAUTILUS_CANVAS_ICON_SIZE_STANDARD). All the people I know (colleagues, friends etc)...first thing they do is to change zoom level to 48 as no everyone own a hidpi screen. In my experience 48px works perfectly well on different screen resolution ranging from 1366×768 to 1600×900... to... 1920×1080 & to... 2560×1440. Only going beyond one would require higher pixel icons. But those cases are rare even on 2016. Secondly, even if we agree on making 64/96 as standard zoom level, why did you change icon grid (STANDARD_ICON_GRID_WIDTH) without redesigning/fixing views? As of now views are completely broken....and will probably remain broken for long long time (as you said fixing views is hard).
Yea I don't know who did this, but this is a major usability issue. It needs to be fixed rather quick because I'm about to just use Xfce instead as Nautilus at this point is ruined as far as usability is concerned. http://i.imgur.com/zALRivg.png That screenshot says a thousand words. Can't even fit Willy Wonka's name in a reasonable space, and Young Frankenstein can't even fit Frankenstein in one line. That's just silly.
(In reply to Brandon from comment #9) > http://i.imgur.com/zALRivg.png In the provided example, why not use List View? All the files in that example have exactly the same name, which makes the *icon* view pointless by definition. List view already covers the usability issue. You can change to list view (with 1 click) for this folder, then change back to icon view (with 1 click) when you navigate somewhere else. Does this solution fix it for you? If not, what problems arise?
Why should I have to use list view, if icon view used to have enough width to fit simple words? Are you serious? Is limiting the functionality of icon view justifiable just because you personally feel list view is better? Whatever, I switched back to KDE after realizing that Nautlius in the Gnome project is tanking hard. Dolphin is a far better file manager anyway. You can have fun with your crippled icon view, since telling someone to use List View (who doesn't want to!) is completely justifiable in your eyes.
(In reply to Brandon from comment #11) Please don't misunderstand me. It was a honest question to get more information for this bug report. It was not my intention to demand you to follow some kind of "one true way to use nautilus", as if there was one.
(In reply to Brandon from comment #11) > Why should I have to use list view, if icon view used to have enough width > to fit simple words? Are you serious? Is limiting the functionality of > icon view justifiable just because you personally feel list view is better? > > Whatever, I switched back to KDE after realizing that Nautlius in the Gnome > project is tanking hard. Dolphin is a far better file manager anyway. You > can have fun with your crippled icon view, since telling someone to use List > View (who doesn't want to!) is completely justifiable in your eyes. Please be respectful and constructive in Bugzilla.
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