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Bug 735811 - Keyboard shortcuts are locale-specific [regression]
Keyboard shortcuts are locale-specific [regression]
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 678001
Product: gnome-shell
Classification: Core
Component: general
3.10.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
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Assigned To: gnome-shell-maint
gnome-shell-maint
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2014-09-01 14:30 UTC by Artiom Neganov
Modified: 2014-09-02 09:49 UTC
See Also:
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Description Artiom Neganov 2014-09-01 14:30:29 UTC
Fedora 20/Gnome 3.10, fresh install
I added Russian language as the second language and configured input source switching on Super+Space which does works.
Now NONE of shortcuts with latin letters doesn't work when I switch input to Russian.

I really wonder how in 2014 this could be possible. This is defenitely a regression
Comment 1 Artiom Neganov 2014-09-01 14:30:58 UTC
s/defenitely/definitely/
Comment 2 Bastien Nocera 2014-09-01 14:39:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> Fedora 20/Gnome 3.10, fresh install
> I added Russian language as the second language and configured input source
> switching on Super+Space which does works.
> Now NONE of shortcuts with latin letters doesn't work when I switch input to
> Russian.

I'm guessing you mean none of them work. Did you mean that system shortcuts listed in the Shortcuts tab of the keyboard settings don't work? Or keyboard shortcuts in specific applications?

> I really wonder how in 2014 this could be possible. This is defenitely a
> regression

A regression compared to which version?
Comment 3 André Klapper 2014-09-01 19:38:32 UTC
Artiom: Another user and I wrote already on IRC that we cannot reproduce your problem, hence I don't see much need for drama drama it's 2014 comments. OMG it's software it might even have bugs?

As written above, more info and exact steps to reproduce (click by click to reproduce the exact configuration) needed.
Comment 4 Artiom Neganov 2014-09-02 08:35:06 UTC
> I'm guessing you mean none of them work. Did you mean that system shortcuts
> listed in the Shortcuts tab of the keyboard settings don't work? Or keyboard
> shortcuts in specific applications?

For example Super+L key, which locks the screens.
Comment 5 Rui Matos 2014-09-02 08:43:47 UTC
This was fixed in 3.12

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 678001 ***
Comment 6 Artiom Neganov 2014-09-02 09:25:54 UTC
Good news. It is always discouraging for me when such bugs don't become release blockers. So neither Fedora 20 nor Ubuntu 14 are usable due to this issue.
Comment 7 Artiom Neganov 2014-09-02 09:41:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> Artiom: Another user and I wrote already on IRC that we cannot reproduce your
> problem, hence I don't see much need for drama drama it's 2014 comments. OMG
> it's software it might even have bugs?

So you couldn't reproduce as you probably have Gnome 3.12 where this bug is fixed. And while this is not a drama for you, for non-latin users this could be the show-stopper. As I said in the previous comment, I wonder that such a bug never became critical or even major. It was reported more than two years ago, persisted in 3.5  and fixed only in 3.12. Looks like current Gnome team don't care much about people outside eu/us. This is just my guessing of course.
Comment 8 Bastien Nocera 2014-09-02 09:49:04 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> > Artiom: Another user and I wrote already on IRC that we cannot reproduce your
> > problem, hence I don't see much need for drama drama it's 2014 comments. OMG
> > it's software it might even have bugs?
> 
> So you couldn't reproduce as you probably have Gnome 3.12 where this bug is
> fixed. And while this is not a drama for you, for non-latin users this could be
> the show-stopper. As I said in the previous comment, I wonder that such a bug
> never became critical or even major. It was reported more than two years ago,
> persisted in 3.5

It was reported against gnome-settings-daemon, where the key capture was being done at the time. It became possible to fix it when gnome-shell took over the responsibilities of doing the key capture. So, yes, it was only fixed a year after it was actually possible to fix it.

>  and fixed only in 3.12. Looks like current Gnome team don't
> care much about people outside eu/us. This is just my guessing of course.

Your guessing is wrong, as that patch being fixed shows, and as the amount of work going into making multiple layouts handling not crap also shows. I don't think you appreciate the amount of work that went into those features, so that the UI for them ends up being usable for everyone, not just the ones that understand how XKB work.