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Bug 729685 - edit, metadata, music, photos.
edit, metadata, music, photos.
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: nautilus
Classification: Core
Component: Metadata
unspecified
Other Linux
: Normal enhancement
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Assigned To: Nautilus Maintainers
Nautilus Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks: 726710
 
 
Reported: 2014-05-06 22:49 UTC by mirage
Modified: 2021-06-18 15:33 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description mirage 2014-05-06 22:49:13 UTC
I think I would be a good idea if nautilus were capable to edit metadata  (at least some basics) of music and photo files. the reason is simple. have to install a whole new app to edit for example the artist or the name of the album is not very comfortable to any-one. I know that easytag is powerful enough for every-one, even professional musicians and designers. but for regular non-profesinal end users be able to edit those basics is not needed an app like easyTAG (it is almost like kill flies with cannons). I know the plan is to focus only in what worth and not bloat the app with unnecessary features, in order to make easier the way user interact with those ( and I love that, really, that is why I chose Gnome shell) but I think that some basics could be at hand, be able to edit the six most common and important metadata of the music / photos (name, album, author, artist, date) would be a good feature.


if the feature is already there or there are plans to make it, please tell me 

best regards :)
Comment 1 António Fernandes 2014-05-30 11:01:10 UTC
Hello, thanks for the enhancement suggestion.

The "Documents" application is already able to edit the "Title" of PDF metadata. I wonder if, in the same trend, editing the metadata of music and photos is in the scope of the "Music" and "Photos" applications.

In any case, in order to design and implement a solution, it is fundamentally important to understand the use cases and problems we are trying to solve. Can you describe the situation(s) and/or real life scenario(s) when you'd need to edit the metadata?
Comment 2 mirage 2014-05-30 11:26:53 UTC
hi


well. this is a matter about how much intuitive the app is. the file browser is the first place where people go to edit or/and organize the metadata of their files, what include music and photos and other kind of files. this means, when you need to edit it and the feature is not there, it goes in a trouble because you must find out/search how to. the fact is metadata editing should be a feature offered by the program you use to organize and browse your files.

in the other hand. I know there are some apps that are able to make it like rhythmnbox, but, in many cases you do not want/need to open other app. 

at the end of the day is about be practical. have to open many apps to edit metadata of different kind of files is not practical. what if you need to edit many files of different kind ?  you would have to open 2 or 3 apps to do so instead of one.
Comment 3 António Fernandes 2014-05-30 12:15:55 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
Yes, I understand your point. But "people need to edit metadata" is still a bit abstract. Which concrete real life scenarios do you have in mind? Can you give examples of situations when editing metadata is to be used as part of a task?
Comment 4 mirage 2014-05-30 20:19:02 UTC
case 1) you have some CDs and you want to digitalize them. so, you copy the traks from CD to your computer. you then aware that the names of the songs are not there, just "track 1, track 2..." and there is not metadata ( artist, album, date).

case 2) you download music from internet but the file is named "ahkuhkuy.mp3" again. there is not metadata (yes, I know name is not metadata, but very often that kind of files do not have metadata"

case 3: you have a old digital camera and you want to pass the photos to your pc. you realize there is not metadata of any kind in your photos ( place, date, event, etc no tags)


in all these cases have the capability to edit metadata in nautilus is useful, not just because it is more intuitive, but because with tumbnails you can easy check all photos at once and clasify them easier al at once too. the music cases explain  themself.

case 4 : you edit metadata from a player but then you realize that player do not edit the metadata  of the file, it just add tags to the song INSIDE the program, but  the metadata of the file keeps untouched (I've had this issue in the past) this means the same song could have diferent tags on different players
Comment 5 António Fernandes 2014-05-30 21:52:38 UTC
Thank you for sharing these use cases. That's very useful for designers and developers.

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I observe a common pattern in all the cases above: the files are missing metadata (because of their source or the way they are imported) and the user is left looking for a way to "set/add missing metadata" (which is more specific than "edit metadata").
Comment 6 mirage 2014-05-31 00:46:14 UTC
well. it is true but there are cases when the metadata is wrong. for example the music files often have the compositor instead of the artist in the artist tag (for example juanito "el serrucho" perez instead of led zeppelin) or movies have the studio instead the director (20 century fox instead george lucas ). Both add and edit metadata are useful features.

other case is when the camera's date is wrong, the dates in the photos are wrong too.
Comment 7 André Klapper 2021-06-18 15:33:44 UTC
GNOME is going to shut down bugzilla.gnome.org in favor of gitlab.gnome.org.
As part of that, we are mass-closing older open tickets in bugzilla.gnome.org
which have not seen updates for a longer time (resources are unfortunately
quite limited so not every ticket can get handled).

If you can still reproduce the situation described in this ticket in a recent
and supported software version of Files (nautilus), then please follow
  https://wiki.gnome.org/GettingInTouch/BugReportingGuidelines
and create a new ticket at
  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/

Thank you for your understanding and your help.