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Bug 711426 - Unable to set Miscellaneous compatibility options in gnome-control-center keyboard in GNOME 3.10
Unable to set Miscellaneous compatibility options in gnome-control-center key...
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: Keyboard
3.10.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: Rui Matos
Control-Center Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2013-11-04 17:52 UTC by Nrbrtx
Modified: 2014-01-20 10:15 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
A patch for most problems (16.80 KB, patch)
2014-01-20 10:15 UTC, Alberto Salvia Novella
none Details | Review

Description Nrbrtx 2013-11-04 17:52:38 UTC
In Ubuntu 12.04 (GNOME 3.4.2) I was able to set Miscellaneous compatibility options in gnome-control-center keyboard (for example, I use "Shift with numeric keypad keys works as in MS Windows"). Here is a list of all missed feautures:
* Allow breaking grabs with keyboard actions (warning: security risk)
* Apple Aluminium Keyboard: emulate PC keys (Print, Scroll Lock, Pause, Num Lock)
* Both Shift-Keys together activate Caps Lock, one Shift-Keys deativates
* Both Shift-Keys together toggle Caps Lock
* Both Shift-Keys together toggle ShiftLock
* Default numeric keypad keys
* Enable extra typographic characters
* Numeric keypad keys always enter digits (as in Mac OS)
* Shift cancels Caps Lock
* Shift does not cancel Num Lock, chooses 3rd level instead
* Shift with numeric keypad keys works as in MS Windows
* Special keys (Ctrl+Alt+<key>) handled in a server
* Toggle PointerKeys with Shift + NumLock

In Ubuntu 13.10 (GNOME 3.6.3) I can't set them from gnome-control-center.

Please bring this options back to the gnome-control-center. They are very useful.
IMHO Gnome-tweak-tool is not right place for them.
Comment 1 Bastien Nocera 2013-11-04 17:58:08 UTC
GNOME 3.6 is a year old. You'd best see about using GNOME 3.10 (available in Ubuntu GNOME I hear) or file a bug with your distribution.
Comment 2 Lockal 2013-11-04 18:42:35 UTC
I can confirm that any of these options are not available in gnome-control-center 3.10 (package 1:3.10.1-0ubuntu1~saucy2 from LP-PPA-gnome3-team-gnome3-staging/saucy). I'm not sure about "Enable extra typographic characters": if you mean entering special characters with AltGr key, you can set and change it to any other key in 3.10.

@Bastien, should Norbert fill a new bugreport or reopen this one?
Comment 3 Rui Matos 2013-11-04 20:02:53 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> Please bring this options back to the gnome-control-center. They are very
> useful.
> IMHO Gnome-tweak-tool is not right place for them.

We disagree.

(In reply to comment #2)
> @Bastien, should Norbert fill a new bugreport or reopen this one?

Since we disagree on the premise, no, there's no need to file a new bug or reopen this one.
Comment 4 Nrbrtx 2013-11-06 16:58:22 UTC
I installed latest GNOME 3.10 from Ubuntu ppa. 
The problem exists in it too. So I reopen a bug.

IMHO: GNOME is not Mac OS X with its stupidity/simplicty design. What do you think? I think, that your users are not fools and idiots.
Users need ability to change settings "Miscellaneous compatibility
options" from not-far-hidden place. Gnome-tweak-tool is not right place for it, 
I repeat.

All new laptops has numeric keypad in right side. Users may want to set this option - "Shift with numeric keypad keys works as in MS Windows" from default installed GUI. Is it clear for you?
Comment 5 Rui Matos 2013-11-06 17:46:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> All new laptops has numeric keypad in right side. Users may want to set this
> option - "Shift with numeric keypad keys works as in MS Windows" from default
> installed GUI.

I'm not sure I understand. You mean that there are laptops shipping with keyboard layouts that we don't support?

If you have a specific bug to report please do so by filing a new bug with detailed information.
Comment 6 Nrbrtx 2013-11-07 08:23:53 UTC
No, Rui.
>You mean that there are laptops shipping with keyboard layouts that we don't support?
I do not mean this.

The problem is missed compatibility option.

If NumLock LED is off Shift+Number produces number, but with option "Shift with numeric keypad keys works as in MS Windows" it works in another way (as Shift+ Home, End, Pg Up, Pg Dn with dependence on key). This way is more comfortable for me. That is all.
Comment 7 Alberto Salvia Novella 2014-01-20 10:15:45 UTC
Created attachment 266708 [details] [review]
A patch for most problems

Please, when saying "we disagree" to a user, briefly explain your decision; although you don't plan to follow more discussion about the topic.

In other way; this means decisions are not been taken for representing the community but, although it has been contrasted, the way of seeing the world of a few only. It also excludes the user from learning, so it's impossible he not to get angry.