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Bug 700974 - [Usability] conceptual error in option "lock screen" on Privacy panel.
[Usability] conceptual error in option "lock screen" on Privacy panel.
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: Privacy
3.18.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
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Assigned To: Rui Matos
Control-Center Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2013-05-24 20:28 UTC by Bastián Díaz
Modified: 2021-06-09 16:10 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 3.7/3.8



Description Bastián Díaz 2013-05-24 20:28:14 UTC
I present this error in the privacy settings, because it creates confusion in the operation of the system "lock screen".

problem:
When you enter the Privacy panel and set the "on / off" to "lock screen", it is seen as a separate function (and therefore downtime can choose to operate). However, in practice, this works only when you turn downtime to "turn off screen" power panel. (At no point is clear that the screen is locked (meaning with password prompt) some time after the screen goes blank.

I think there are three points (functions) that separate:

1. "lock screen" ("backdrop", time and notifications)
2. "Turn off screen"
3. Security (prompt for password after "lock screen".

Mention a possibility of operation and details of the problem in another reported error (Bug 699177).

OS: fedora 19
Environment: GNOME 3.8.2
Comment 1 Bastián Díaz 2015-10-25 20:25:44 UTC
gnome 3.18.1

Hi, I think partly this conceptual error remains. However, I think you should pay attention to the following settings:

Settings | energy | off screen | never
settings | privacy | screen block | on [when the screen turns off]

With this configuration it is impossible that the screen is locked.

Any suggestions?
Comment 2 Bastien Nocera 2015-10-26 00:44:28 UTC
I don't understand what the problem is here. Can you try rewording this? And please, when quoting labels, make sure you quote the English labels, the labels translated back to English don't seem to match the English terms used in the UI, making this harder to understand.
Comment 3 Bastián Díaz 2015-10-26 01:25:07 UTC
(In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2)
> I don't understand what the problem is here. Can you try rewording this? And
> please, when quoting labels, make sure you quote the English labels, the
> labels translated back to English don't seem to match the English terms used
> in the UI, making this harder to understand.

I'm so sorry.
The problem boils down to the lock screen (privacy settings), only occurs after the screen turns off (power settings), therefore, if the "blank screen" option in power settings set to "never" for me it is not logical that you can configure the automatic screen lock on privacy.

So:

If a user sets up first power settings, and configure the "blank screen" to "never" if he goes to the privacy settings, the option to "automatic lock screen" should not be selectable.

If a user sets up first privacy settings, (automatic screen lock after blank for ...) and then set up the power settings "blank screen" to "never" , an application banner should indicate that "automatic screen lock" has been disabled.

Cheers
Comment 4 Bastien Nocera 2015-10-26 03:01:38 UTC
You're confusing the fact that the screen shield comes down with the requirement to enter a password. The screen can be off without requiring you to enter a password when waking it up.

Making the two settings dependent on each other would also make it more complicated to operate. So I'm not sure what problem it is you're trying to point out, or where the confusion might be.
Comment 5 Bastián Díaz 2015-10-26 03:39:49 UTC
(In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #4)
> You're confusing the fact that the screen shield comes down with the
> requirement to enter a password. The screen can be off without requiring you
> to enter a password when waking it up.
> 

That I know, I do not mean that.

> Making the two settings dependent on each other would also make it more
> complicated to operate. So I'm not sure what problem it is you're trying to
> point out, or where the confusion might be.

Sure, I do not speak for them to be dependent, and I think they are.

If you set your power settings to never blank screen, the automatic screen lock is deactivated.

It is not like this?

I just think the user should be notified.
Comment 6 Bastien Nocera 2015-10-26 10:20:14 UTC
I suppose they could be.
Comment 7 André Klapper 2021-06-09 16:10:38 UTC
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Thank you for your understanding and your help.