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Bug 694387 - "guyenne" deck, but misses jokers
"guyenne" deck, but misses jokers
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: aisleriot
Classification: Other
Component: artwork
unspecified
Other All
: Normal normal
: gnome-3-8
Assigned To: aisleriot-maint
aisleriot-maint
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2013-02-21 19:51 UTC by mariotomo
Modified: 2013-05-25 19:24 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
the artwork (1.40 MB, application/x-gzip)
2013-02-21 19:51 UTC, mariotomo
Details
working deck (1.37 MB, application/x-gzip)
2013-02-27 09:07 UTC, mariotomo
Details

Description mariotomo 2013-02-21 19:51:46 UTC
Created attachment 237100 [details]
the artwork

I've digitized and coloured a traditional French deck from the early 18th century. it's called "guyenne", from the name of the French region where it was in use.
the idea of the back comes from some Moroccan handicraft.
problem is that in those years jokers had not been invented yet, so I should "backport" some to the deck and before I start thinking doing that, I'm reporting the fact here, in the hope some real artist might come to help!
Comment 1 mariotomo 2013-02-21 19:56:01 UTC
oh, the reason behind the colours: I've chosen to mix the "Neapolitan" color coding yellow-blue-red-green with the colouring of the tournament German-French decks used for "skat". this way the cards look somewhat familiar also for players coming from other cultures.
Comment 2 mariotomo 2013-02-27 09:04:35 UTC
I have worked upon it, seems that the template I was using is not correct, so my cards were not working at all. now I based the deck on a working deck delivered with ubuntu 12.10.
see the new attachment.
Comment 3 mariotomo 2013-02-27 09:07:35 UTC
Created attachment 237503 [details]
working deck

based on one of the decks part of the ubuntu-12.10 gnome-games-extra-data package. works fine with aisleriot. it still misses the two jokers.
Comment 4 Christian Persch 2013-03-03 23:02:26 UTC
Thanks! This card set looks really great :-)

Just two questions:

* Where did you get the scans of the source cards from? Would be nice to share them / a link to them, too :-)

* Since it's from the 18th century, the original is clearly out of copyright. You based the non-face cards on one of the existing sets in aisleriot, which are GPL3+. Is it ok to licence your work (which clearly *is* copyrighted, even if the original design it's based on isn't anymore) under the GPL v 3-or-later?
Comment 5 mariotomo 2013-03-04 09:35:33 UTC
happy you like the set! :)

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my direct source is "De Geschiedenis van de Speelkaart", by Han Hanssen, edited by Elmar b.v., Rijswijk 1985.
the specific card set is at page 85, and it is reported as taken from »d'Allemagne, Henry René, "le cartes à jouer, du XVIe au XXe siècle" (2 delen), Paris 1906, deel 1, p 125.«
the source I used is not a copy of a set of individual cards (where there would still be the uncertainty of when the card has been coloured) it's a print of the original wooden pattern, I digitized it using gimp and inkscape, then coloured it taking some inspiration from cards I could find on the net looking for "guyenne playing cards", but mainly it's my own decision what colours to use, because I wanted the predominant hue in the different suits to be rather uniform.

in short: I do not think you can find an image of this wooden pattern on the internet other than here now.

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GPL v 3-or-later is more than fine!
Comment 6 Christian Persch 2013-03-12 19:03:04 UTC
So is this the final set or do you plan any more updates to this set for now? If not, I'll add this to the aisleriot distribution for 3.8.0 :-)
Comment 7 Christian Persch 2013-03-12 19:08:47 UTC
Oh and if you want to be credited by name instead of by only email, can I assume it's the same as the email, split between o and t ?
Comment 8 Christian Persch 2013-03-12 19:10:00 UTC
Nm, got the name from the mailing list.
Comment 9 mariotomo 2013-03-12 20:16:51 UTC
hi, "tomo" is a nickname I got during my stay in Pisa. real complete name is Mario Frasca.
"sooner or later" I'll do something at the missing jokers. but for the rest this is quite final. which games do use jokers?
Comment 10 Christian Persch 2013-03-12 20:57:02 UTC
I think only the "Thieves" game uses jokers.
Comment 11 Christian Persch 2013-05-25 19:24:02 UTC
I have pushed this to git master for 3.9.0. Thanks for the contribution! :-)