GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 690938
Text tool: German umlaut capital letters (Ä, Ö and Ü) are not supported
Last modified: 2013-01-09 22:47:57 UTC
The german capital letters Ä, Ö and Ü are not supported in the text tool, unless I write them in an another program and then copy them in.
Thank you for reporting this. I could not reproduce this. It seems your input locale (in German: 'Eingabegebietsschema') is set to another language than German. It's the little symbol down in the taskbar left to the clock showing DE, EN etc. Click into the GIMP window (to make it active) and then on the input locale symbol and set it to 'DE'. Then try again typing some text in GIMP. If that solves your problem, then please close this bug as RESOLVED-NOTABUG. Otherwise please try again with the GIMP version from gimp-win.sourceforge.net and tell us: - which symbols are shown instead of the umlauts and - what your input locale is. Your answer within the next 6 weeks is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Thanks for your answer. My input locale has always been DE (Deutschland) and my operating system is windows 7 64bit. Also my GIMP Version is the same as this from gimp-win.sourceforge.net but also in older versions, this error occurs. instead of Ä comes ä instead of Ö comes ö instead of Ü comes ü So I only get the small German umlaut letters but not the capital ones. best wishes Nico
Works fine for me. Is there anything special to your system?
I think not. The same error also occurs on other computers. I've tried it. I attached also a picture with the screenshot of the bug, my input locale and the about window. I hope this shows the error more clearly. Because Michael Schumacher I would imagine that he has tried to copy/paste an umlaut from an other program or try only small umlauts.
Created attachment 232462 [details] Bug, input locale and about window
Do you install software on all of these computers?
Yes, and all the same bug. Unfortunately, all Windows 7.
Now I've tried the bug under Linux Kubuntu (old version 11.0). There didn't occur the bug!
Of course that doesn't, because we would have a lot more reports about it otherwise. Can you try this on a out-of-the-box Windows 7 system?
Additionally to what Michael asked: > Also my GIMP Version is the same as this from gimp-win.sourceforge.net but also > in older versions, this error occurs. You mean, this is the version from gimp-win.sourceforge.net or this is a version with the same version number like that, but from a different source? I ask this because there might be differences that are not obvious to the user, for instance in the underlying libraries. This bug looks like the underlying font libraries are doing something unexpected. Please also post the output of gimp-2.8 -v.
I again uninstalled GIMP and the latest version of GIMP from gimp-win.sourceforge.net installed on two computers. Nevertheless, the bug occurred. At one computer, an error message appeared. Maybe this help further. But since they do not appeared on the second computer, I do not believe it. I attached a picture with the screenshot of the error message.
Created attachment 232510 [details] Error message when the program starts at one computer
So there's probably more than one copy of this file on that system. This can be an explanation for the problem your observe, and would also explain why no one else has reported this - if different versions of some DLL files are picked up by GIMP on your systems, all sorts of weird behavior can happen. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_Hell At least, this provides an approach for research: Check where this file is located, and what other DLL files are loaded. A tool like Process Monitor (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/sysinternals/bb896645) set to show the gimp process and access to dll files only can help with that.
I think, the error message comes from the repeated install and uninstall from GIMP, because after the first install, the error message didn't appears. Also on the other computers, where I installed GIMP, the error message didn't occur. But the umlaut problem has always existed, on all Windows 7 computers I have. If my problem was not resolved until next week, I have the opportunity to try out GIMP on a Windows XP computer. The program "Progress Monitor" I don't quite understand. I filtered out the process name gimp-2.8.exe and still got 48'048 results. After I searched for "libgobjet-2.0-0.dll", did in fact have about 50 results. What should I exactly do with this program? While I can programming well but I don't know much of analysis tools.
Process Monitor can show you whether GIMP is loading some DLL files from other places than its own bin directory. You can export the log and use other tools, e.g. grep, to trim it down by excluding all lines pointing to files in said directory, for example. I've tried to reproduce the problem on Windows XP and Windows 7 and always could type ÄÖÜäöü and any other character I can think of.
I found in a German forum a person who has exactly the same problem as I. At least now is make sure I'm not the only one who have this problem. You can find the forum at the link: http://www.inkscape-forum.de/index.php?p=/discussion/2618/hiiiilfe-umlaut-gross-schreiben/p1
Sorry, I misread. the link is for another program.
Both GIMP and Inkscape are based on GTK+, so the cause could be the same. Although that would make it less likely that the problem lies inside GIMP, and more likely that it is either in GTK+ or in something else on the affected systems.
Since school has started since yesterday, I had the opportunity to try GIMP at school computers. I tested GIMP with some friends on multiple computers (all Windows XP). At no one it was possible to write capital ÄÖÜ. Now we can safely assume that the problem has nothing to do with my computer.
I also wanted to report this error. With me, everything is exactly the same! I also can't write ÄÖÜ. Since I often need GIMP to write texts on pictures, this bug is very annoying. I hope that this bug fixed as soon as possible!
Could be specific to Swiss system settings.
Try the Unicode input method (Ctrl+Shift+U and then the character code, 00dc for Ü and 00fc for ü), this could tell us if this is a problem with recognizing the input.
As Michael stated in comment 21 this is specific to the Swiss system settings. Actually it's a duplicate of bug #371371. I added some additional information there. However, thank you for reporting this and feel free to report any further bugs you find. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 371371 ***
The Unicode input method worked! 00dc=Ü 00fc=ü