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Bug 676321 - "Safely remove" options removed - no way to "spin down" USB HD before unplugging
"Safely remove" options removed - no way to "spin down" USB HD before unplugging
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: nautilus
Classification: Core
Component: general
3.6.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
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Assigned To: Nautilus Maintainers
Nautilus Maintainers
: 693946 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2012-05-18 14:27 UTC by Alessandro Crismani
Modified: 2021-06-18 15:29 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
apt-cache showpkg nautilus (4.21 KB, text/plain)
2013-05-06 10:06 UTC, Nrbrtx
Details

Description Alessandro Crismani 2012-05-18 14:27:52 UTC
I have noticed that the option to "Safely removed" USB drives mounted by users has been removed from Nautilus 3.4.

I would glady use the umount options instead of "safely remove", but this option does not spin down the hard drive and does not park its heads. The visible result is that when unmounting using Nautilus 3.4 the USB hard drive light doesn't flash and turn off anymore, and the disk spins even after unmounting.

Is there anyway to get the old behaviour back?

Please note that this is different from bugs asking for notifications when files are sync'ed, I would like to unmount the HD in such a way that the disk does not spin anymore.

Thanks a lot,
Alessandro
Comment 1 William Jon McCann 2012-08-17 22:40:18 UTC
Doesn't eject do this?
Comment 2 Theodore Lee 2012-08-18 00:01:57 UTC
As far as I'm aware there is no 'eject' option available when you plug in a portable hard drive. The Nautilus context menus and removable media notification only provide an unmount option, and clicking on the eject icon unmounts the drive without spinning it down.
Comment 3 Alessandro Crismani 2012-08-19 08:05:12 UTC
As Theodore said, I only have an unmount option for the single partitions on the USB drive. Such unmount does not spin down the HD, and I have to rely on some udisk/hdparm magic to make that happen.

I know that recent drives should automatically spin down when the USB cord is unplugged, however I really feel more confident when the laptop "safely removes" it, meaning that the light stops flashing and the heads stop rotating, and then I unplug it :)
Comment 4 Cristian Ciupitu 2012-09-05 22:08:50 UTC
There's no eject option for USB 2.0 hard drives in gnome-disk-utility-3.4.1-1.fc17.x86_64.
Comment 5 António Fernandes 2013-02-16 18:35:28 UTC
Dropping the NEEDINFO status, as the question seems to have been answered.

Same as previous comments, neither nautilus 3.6.3 nor gnome-disks 3.6.1 offer "Eject" option for my external USB hard disk, and nautilus falls back to "Unmount".
Comment 6 Nrbrtx 2013-02-17 20:21:52 UTC
I confirm this bug at least on Fedora 18 LiveCD, OpenSuSe 12.2 LiveCD, Ubuntu 12.10 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1127135).
Comment 7 Cosimo Cecchi 2013-03-19 08:12:26 UTC
*** Bug 693946 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Nrbrtx 2013-04-27 14:17:57 UTC
Bug still exists in Fedora 18 with latest updates.
Comment 10 António Fernandes 2013-04-27 15:25:25 UTC
Nrbrtx: Thanks for testing. All these distributions are on GNOME 3.6, if I am not mistaken, so it is expected that the bug still exists there.

This commit to udisks is from November, so it was too late for 3.6: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=81dcb6eeaeceb6c6faae1a40a5b34a65cd5af653

It should work in GNOME 3.8, at least for gnome-disks, not sure about nautilus. Testing both gnome-disks and nautilus on Fedora 19 would be valuable.
Comment 11 Nrbrtx 2013-04-27 15:29:42 UTC
Thank you, Antonio!
I'll test it.
Comment 12 Nrbrtx 2013-04-28 17:15:33 UTC
Bug exists in Gnome 3.8 in these distros: Fedora 19, OpenSuse Tumbleweed and Ubuntu 13.04 (with ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3). So it is not fixed in Nautilus yet.

Gnome Disks powers off my USB-flash, but does not spin down my USB-HDD (wrote a comment to corresponding bug #675542).
Comment 13 Nrbrtx 2013-05-06 10:06:59 UTC
Created attachment 243375 [details]
apt-cache showpkg nautilus
Comment 14 Nrbrtx 2013-05-06 10:07:23 UTC
Comment on attachment 243375 [details]
apt-cache showpkg nautilus

Hello, guys!
I have recently installed Debian Wheezy and installed Nautilus 3.8 from experimental (package 'nautilus_3.8.0-1_i386.deb' from here http://packages.debian.org/experimental/i386/nautilus/download) with 
apt-get install -t experimental nautilus.

I found interesting moment. There is no udisks2 package in the system. Safely remove works as expected for both USB-flash (with all 5 my flashes) and USB-HDD. It's great!
Comment 15 Nrbrtx 2013-10-12 09:57:59 UTC
This bug exists in "gnome-disk-utility 3.8.2
UDisks 2.1.0 (built against 2.1.0)" Ubuntu 13.10 - it does not spin-down my
USB-HDD (Seagate ST9750420A in USB Tsunami e-data 2500 enclosure), but "udisks
--detach /dev/sdb" did. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1239087
Comment 16 Nrbrtx 2013-11-24 12:48:34 UTC
Bug exists in nautilus 3.10.1 (tested in Fedora 20).
Please fix it.
Comment 17 Nrbrtx 2014-01-18 12:36:45 UTC
Bug exists in nautilus 3.10.1 (tested in Arch).
Please fix it.
Comment 18 rimbotede 2014-03-04 21:22:07 UTC
Confirmed, nautilus 3.10.1, Arch.
Comment 19 Isaque Galdino 2014-12-10 12:46:59 UTC
it seems this bug was fixed in current 3.14.1 version, Fedora 21.
but another one just arose.
if you turn your computer with your usb-hdd connected (let's say you forget it there the night before - my case), once you login it will show up in your Nautilus without the safe remove option.
I can find it that option at disks app, but there is not easy for newbies:
1) the option is not at the gears menu right below the disk information, only unmount;
2) it says "Desligar" translation of turn-off or shutdown instead of Safe Remove; and
3) regular users won't look at disks app for such a thing, they will just click the eject icon (which is unmount only) and will trust that everything is ok, until they crack their disks and says to everybody that Linux broke their USB-HDD driver.
Comment 20 André Klapper 2021-06-18 15:29:34 UTC
GNOME is going to shut down bugzilla.gnome.org in favor of gitlab.gnome.org.
As part of that, we are mass-closing older open tickets in bugzilla.gnome.org
which have not seen updates for a longer time (resources are unfortunately
quite limited so not every ticket can get handled).

If you can still reproduce the situation described in this ticket in a recent
and supported software version of Files (nautilus), then please follow
  https://wiki.gnome.org/GettingInTouch/BugReportingGuidelines
and create a new ticket at
  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/

Thank you for your understanding and your help.