GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 520591
Orca should implement navigation by sentence
Last modified: 2018-02-09 23:30:58 UTC
One of the things Mats Lundalv identified in his "A spotlight on the need for basic reading and writing support in GNOME" (http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2008-February/msg00055.html) was the ability to read sentence by sentence. This would be beneficial both for users with learning disabilities as well as those with visual impairments. It is also a feature found in other screen readers. We can easily do this for apps which support TEXT_BOUNDARY_LINE_START. I just did a quick check of a few apps: Gedit, OOo Writer, Tomboy Notes and Evo do. I'm not having much luck with FF. :-( I'll look some more and file a bug if need be. We could make also it an unbound keybinding so that those folks who want it can bind it and other folks can ignore it. This work should (I assume) be done in conjunction with our "get smarter" bug (bug 510231: _presentTextAtNewCaretPosition() assumes standard navigation keys) Thoughts?
First coarse pass at GNOME 2.24 planning.
This should be exposed as fundamental toolkit and application behavior and we should file bugs in the appropriate places. Failing fixes in the proper places, we can investigate doing this in Orca.
Planning spam. Sorry!
The patch submitted by me to Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577481 also addressed navigation by sentence. Joanmarie reviewed it in her comment https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577481#c10. May I submit a new patch to this bug, to handle navigation by sentence? This bug is currently assigned to Joanmarie. Regards.
Dattatray: We are in the process of doing some significant refactoring. Caret navigation will become a new module. It will get a supporting module that will include sentence related functionality. And the two combined will likely then get pulled into a plugin. As a result of these things, I think your creating a new patch for this bug would not be the best use of your time. Thanks!
Is this feature going to be part of Gnome 3.0, please?
I hope so.
I think Gnome 3.0 didn't have the feature. What is the current status please?
(In reply to Joanmarie Diggs (IRC: joanie) from comment #0) > One of the things Mats Lundalv identified in his "A spotlight on the need > for basic reading and writing support in GNOME" > (http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2008-February/ > msg00055.html) was the ability to read sentence by sentence. This would be > beneficial both for users with learning disabilities as well as those with > visual impairments. It is also a feature found in other screen readers. If other screen readers have this feature, and if it's really needed for people that have difficulties to learn and if it's not to hard to implement I think we should keep this bug open. Best regards.
If we can get it added to the toolkits, then it would JustWork(tm) with Orca. In fact, users with learning disabilities who do not need the complexity of a screen reader would be able to user more suitable tools and still get this benefit. Here's the Gtk+ bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668297. Perhaps someone from Hypra could contribute that feature to Gtk+?
(In reply to Joanmarie Diggs (IRC: joanie) from comment #10) > Here's the Gtk+ bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668297. > Perhaps someone from Hypra could contribute that feature to Gtk+? In the near future, I don't think. We're focusing on the LibreOffice a11y tenders, see https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/01/29/tdf-uses-tendering-process-improve-libreoffice-share-knowledge-community/ and the ton of bugs in our pipe https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=bugs@hypra.fr;tag=hypra And we've other specific bugs to screen magnifier (https://redmine.hypra.fr/projects/bigleu) to fix when we'll found time so I don't think we could do much more for the moment. Best regards.