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Bug 338673 - Add "resize" option to Edit menu
Add "resize" option to Edit menu
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 321223
Product: f-spot
Classification: Other
Component: Editing
0.1.10
Other All
: Normal enhancement
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Assigned To: F-spot maintainers
F-spot maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2006-04-16 08:52 UTC by Douglas Anderson
Modified: 2006-04-30 13:44 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Douglas Anderson 2006-04-16 08:52:22 UTC
Not sure if there's some special reason why "resize" as been left out of the
edit menu, but it seems like it would make a lot of sense to be there. Here's a
case for it:

Doug takes a pretty picture with his 5mpx camera and uploads it to f-spot @
2592x1944px. He wants to add the picture as an attachment in gmail and send it
to his friend, but knows he should resize it to be courteous.
He first tries the "constraints" menu and creates a "new version" using the
smallest size available, but notices it shows no change to the actual size.
(confusing)
He next fiddles around and finally finds out you can resize a single file by
exporting to a gallery, then deleting all the files except the resized photo.
Although this is a bit of a pain, he's reluctant to install an image
manipulation program like imagemagick or the gimp to take care of this one
simple function.

Well there you have it (PS true story :P) I know f-spot isn't trying to be for
hardcore photo manipulation, but I mean, I can fix red eye, but I can't resize??
Also, using the "export" trick, it doesn't integrate well this the whole
"original/modified" theme, which I find really useful.

Just a thought,
-Doug
Comment 1 Bengt Thuree 2006-04-20 01:25:09 UTC
Since your usecase specifially mentioned shrinking pictures when sending them by email, I will close this bug and refere to bug #314559

If you are not happy with this, please re-open this bug, and indicate why this one is different.



*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 314559 ***
Comment 2 Douglas Anderson 2006-04-20 02:10:41 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)

Hi Bengt, I tried to do my research before opening this bug, and had already taken a look at bug #314559. The difference between 314559 and this bug is that I use gmail's web-based email. I feel like we shouldn't only be able to resize images when using evolution or thunderbird, you know? It's like we have a resize feature, but if all you want is a resized image you have to jump through hoops to get it.

I'm going to re-open this bug, but only as I'm under the impression that f-spot should compete (not the right word, maybe be comparable) with gThumb. If you've never used it, pop it open and take a look. It has nearly the exact same set of features and intended audience as f-spot, with the exception of the added _very basic, necessary_ features of resizing and cropping an image.

Sorry for re-opening. If there's no intention to add these few extra features (and I think that would be silly, forcing people to keep a seperate program around to get a simple job done) then you can just mention that and close the bug again.
Comment 3 Bengt Thuree 2006-04-20 02:36:52 UTC
No worries.

I agree that sending by GMail might be tricky directly from F-Spot, so a resize meny option defintely makes sence.

Perhaps some standard sizes, plus a customized size.
200, 400, 640, 800, 1024, 1280
Comment 4 Bengt Thuree 2006-04-20 02:48:33 UTC
Hmm... 
How to select 10 different pictures and then shrink them down to a managable size for email, copy them to a specific folder and then import them to GMail (or whatever).

I at least would like this to be temporary and perhaps have a special tag associated with them, to make it easy to delete the smaller versions when I am done.

When I write this I seem to remember seeing something that all exports should have an resize option (as well as some other things like EXIF cleaning I think). This would solve this issue. Unfortunately I can not find it now.
Comment 5 Larry Ewing 2006-04-20 03:15:32 UTC
There is code in f-spot cabale of sending mail directly though gmail it isn't currently enabled.  It is also rather easy to set up evolution to be able to send mail through gmail.
Comment 6 Bengt Thuree 2006-04-20 03:23:12 UTC
How about yahooMail, care2 mail and all the other mail providers who like what they do, and do not want to open op to much.

Also, my ISP in Australia blocks all accesses to outside mailservers on SMTP ports. I have to use my ISP provider to send mails.

I think this bug has a valid point. A resize option would be nice to have.
Comment 7 Douglas Anderson 2006-04-20 03:45:36 UTC
Hi Larry, thanks for the reply. I guess g-mailing someone directly from f-spot would be a possibility, but it's not the only web based email client, and there are just numerous reasons for wanting to get your hands on a resized image (custom written blog, blog user that doesn't use flickr, school project, etc)

Ok hear me out on this. I understand now about the philosophy behind export. I realize that f-spot's aim is to allow the user to not worry about where their photos are the linux file hierarchy, because f-spot copies them from all over and puts them into it's own kinda hard to navigate hierachy, but is then insanely easy INSIDE f-spot (I like this). Now if the user wants to edit their photos or put them online (flickr) they shouldn't have to find them first, it should all be seamless inside f-spot. I get that. But I also think that the user shouldn't HAVE to really comprehend f-spot's philosophy in order to user the basic functions, but they do. The reason is, while putting a seperate hard copy in a specific folder outside of f-spot's management realm is technically "exporting the file", that's really not the first, or even second place I'd look when I want to resize my file. The first place is Edit > Resize

Let me go on. To make things a little more confusing, when you finally do figure things out and click on File > Export > Export to Foler, the default option is creating a standalone web gallery. What? Isn't that what Export Web Gallery is for? It's adds a lot of unnecessary confusion (not to metion files) to an already confusing situation.

Lastly, all you're really doing is modifying the original version of your picture. But unfortunately this "export" thing bypasses the original/modified thing that I think is so cool.

I'm sorry this is a little lengthy, but to me (and I'm not a developer at all, but I'm not a newbie either) it would just be lovely if I could click on a photo, go to Edit > Resize, maybe chose between some default sizes (thumbnail, small, med, large) or be able to enter a custom size as Bengt mentioned, and then click Ok. Then the Original/Modified dropdown updates and shows my resized image as a modified version of the original. This is just too easy. Now I want to upload it to an email I've already written in gmail. I click on Edit > Copy Location (of my modified file) and paste that into the upload field that's so prevelent still on the web. Clicking "browse" (on a web form, and I just tried this) will then bring you to the exact file, without the hastle of searching for it.

I think this is just the view from an end-user perspective. Anyone have anymore thoughts about this? Bengt, I thought for a minute but not sure how it would be wise to handle multiple image resizes in this manner... hmm... 
Comment 8 Gabriel Burt 2006-04-30 13:44:45 UTC
Douglas, I think you have some good points about resizing only in the Export options being not good enough for the use cases you described.  If you can please copy/paste a summary onto this older bug, it would be appreciated.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 321223 ***