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Bug 215709 - vfolder behavior confusing and also described wrong
vfolder behavior confusing and also described wrong
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: evolution
Classification: Applications
Component: Mailer
pre-1.5 (obsolete)
Other All
: Normal minor
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Assigned To: evolution-mail-maintainers
Evolution QA team
Depends on:
Blocks: 216096
 
 
Reported: 2001-11-20 00:49 UTC by Thomas O'Dowd
Modified: 2013-09-10 14:03 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
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Description Thomas O'Dowd 2001-11-20 00:49:33 UTC
File: usage-mail-organize-vfolders.html
Location: Just above Example 4-2.

Text:
The "Unmatched" vFolder:  Obviously, not all messages will fit into all
your Virtual Folders. That's why Ximian Evolution includes an Unmatched
vFolder. The Unmatched vFolder displays messages that are not matched by
other rules. If you have no vFolders, the Unmatched folder will contain all
of your mail.
Correction: The last sentence is incorrect according to my evolution
behaviour which doesn't show any messages in the unmatched folder if I have 
no vfolders setup.
Further to this: Its totally unclear how unmatched behaves if you have
multiple vfolders from multiple sources.
Comment 1 aaron 2001-11-20 01:12:18 UTC
The "unmatched" vFolder is terribly confusing, because it has complex
and inconsistent behavior.  Also, it changed on me without anyone
telling me about it.
It used to work the way it is now described-- I remember someone
complaining that they had not known what a "vFolder" was, opened
"UNMATCHED" and, seeing an extra copy of all those emails, just
deleted them. Of course, that deleted all their mail and they were
very unhappy.

Here's how it works now:

If you have not created any vfolders, it will be empty, unless you
have looked in your trash folder (which is implemented as a vfolder--
that is, it displays all messages you have marked for deletion and not
expunged), in which case it will display all your messages. 

If you have vfolders that search remote mail stores, the unmatched
vfolder will search remote stores and display all messages not matched
by the vfolders you have created.

If you have vfolders, but none of them search remote stores, the
unmatched vfolder will not search remote stores and will display only
the unmatched local messages.

I'm marking this as a 1.1 bug, and assigning it to the mail
developers. They should decide whether it is possible to make the
behavior of the Unmatched vFolder clearer; if it is not, they will
bounce it back to me and I will change the docs.  

I'm also adding a note about remote store behavior so that at least
will be clear.
Comment 2 Luis Villa 2001-11-26 17:03:44 UTC
Because of the decision to remap 1.1->1.2 and 1.2->1.4, I'm going to be
moving a large number of bugs around in the bugzilla. You can just
search on 'body contains' 'Because of the decision to remap' and mark
all as read. Please direct all questions about this change to
evolution@ximian.com, not the bug.
Luis

Comment 3 Jeffrey Stedfast 2001-12-06 01:56:57 UTC
I'm confused, my unmatched contains all my mail (I don't have any
vfolders) so what's wrong?
Comment 4 Jeffrey Stedfast 2001-12-06 01:58:14 UTC
oh, wait...n/m, it contains nothing unless maybe it's still querying
all my imap folders or something.
Comment 5 Not Zed 2002-01-21 23:36:45 UTC
How about we just remove it?
Comment 6 Jeffrey Stedfast 2002-01-31 21:15:57 UTC
sure, seems that's what everyone wants anyway.
Comment 7 Kjetil Torgrim Homme 2002-06-03 21:49:47 UTC
First of all, I use "Unmatched" as my main folder, so please don't
remove the functionality.

I have only two folders, Inbox and Spam, and lots of vfolders.  I was
a bit confused when I added Spam as a source for one of my vfolders --
suddenly all the unmatched spam showed up in the Unmatched vfolder. 
very logical when you think about it, but it put a hamper on my use of
Evolution.  it would be better if "unmatched" was a criteria available
in the vfolder editor.  this would also allow me to rename it to
something more intuitive, like "personal e-mail".  additionally, there
would be little reason to keep it as a pre-set vfolder in the tree.
Comment 8 Gerardo Marin 2002-07-16 18:48:59 UTC
Shouldn't be better to have this depeding on bug 223985 (Unmatched
-vfolder rewrite) rather than blocking a UI polish bug?
Comment 9 Not Zed 2002-08-08 03:05:44 UTC
this can't be fixed for 1.2
Comment 10 aaron 2002-08-13 15:02:54 UTC
Really, I should just rewrite the docs a little more. I think the
vFolder behavior itself is fine.
Comment 11 aaron 2002-09-20 19:00:24 UTC
Having clarified the docs a little more, I'm wondering if we can just
close this?
Comment 12 Jeffrey Stedfast 2002-09-20 21:14:29 UTC
sure