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Bug 204091 - need armored/inline PGP/GPG encryption option
need armored/inline PGP/GPG encryption option
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: evolution
Classification: Applications
Component: Mailer
pre-1.5 (obsolete)
Other All
: Normal normal
: Future
Assigned To: evolution-mail-maintainers
Evolution QA team
: 207519 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2001-07-06 02:50 UTC by Dream
Modified: 2004-05-19 15:38 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Dream 2001-07-06 02:50:40 UTC
While trying to send GPG (v 1.0.6) signed/encrypted messages from Evolution
(and test receiving w/ MS Outlook), it appears that the resulting message
from Evolution always includes two attachments (w/ names ATT000??.dat). 
One appears to be the binary encrypted message, the other appears to be my
signature.  MS Outlook (w/ PGPFreeware v 6.5.8) is unable to decode the
message from Evolution.

By contrast, when I send a signed/encrypted message from Outlook and
receive with another client, the message is ASCII and inline, and can
easily be decrypted by anything (Evolution, mutt, whatever).

Is it possible to include an option in Evolution to enable 'armored'
(ASCII) inline PGP/GPG messages?  Thanks.
Comment 1 Dream 2001-07-06 07:00:26 UTC
OK -- so I read RFC 2015 (PGP/MIME).  Looks like Evolution *is* in
fact compliant with the standard and MS Outlook & friends are not...
<sigh> how surprising.

So anyway... would it be too much to ask for an "MS Outlook
compatibility hack" button to allow a "text/plain" MIME of the PGP
armored data?  I understand Evolution is already on the "right side"
of the fence here -- but this incompatibility is not helping me
evangalize open source solutions to people stuck in the MS world, and
it seems like it would be such an easy feature to add...
Comment 2 Jeffrey Stedfast 2001-07-06 15:04:46 UTC
it would *not* be an easy feature to add, so no. I hacked support so
we could receive broken pgp encrypted/signed messages but will not be
adding support to send them.

The problem with inline pgp is that you can only sign/encrypt the
message body and not any of the attachments.

One of the biggest problems I see with inline pgp encryption is that
the recipient client has no way of knowing what has been encrypted, it
has to *assume* it's plain text when in reality it could be a jpeg for
all the recipient knows. This can cause security problems.
Comment 3 Chris Campbell 2001-08-26 22:37:12 UTC
*** bug 207519 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Ed Halley 2001-08-27 04:55:52 UTC
How disappointing.  WONTFIX on a prominent interoperability bug.

The workaround for Outlook users is straightforward but combersome. 
Copy the ASCII stuff found inside the attachment to the clipboard,
paste to a Notepad and save as FOO.ASC, then decrypt the armored file.
 PGPtools from McAfee's distribution can simplify this, it can
decrypt/verify from the clipboard, if you suspect it's a text payload
and not some binary payload like a JPG image.
Comment 5 Peter Williams 2001-08-28 15:32:49 UTC
Well, as I understand it, the problem is with PGPFreeware, not Outlook
per se. This means 1) if possible, you could try a different PGP
plugin (although certainly I could see how this might not be possible)
 and 2) you could try badgering the authors of PGPFreeware and have a
hope of getting them to fix the problem.
Comment 6 Jeffrey Stedfast 2002-05-03 05:27:19 UTC
you might want to update your bookmarks to point to bug#217541 I
think.
Comment 7 René Krell 2002-06-10 06:17:20 UTC
I'm not very glad about this end, even if I do not support the
sideways of Microsoft applications. I'm afraid Evolution will decrease
it's user community by closing this issue as WONTFIX (I know this is
not a real bug). Many users -stuck- with MS Outlook an -won't- leave
it and many other users have to interoperate with them. The current
behaviour of Evolution makes it impractical to exchange PGP encrypted
mails with Outlook!

Why do you not want to make a special security/PGP option to activate
the interoperability with Outlook in Ximain Evolution? You may mark it
as "not compliant with RFC" or other ironic comments, but I know users
that would thank you for that. At least more users than those which
reported or commented this point.
Comment 8 Adam Kessel 2004-05-19 15:38:14 UTC
Hey, I don't know if this is a dead horse or not, but this problem
makes PGP entirely unuseable for me within my organization.  I can't
change the way other people operate right now.  mutt implements
pgp_outlook_compat specifically for this problem.  I just don't see us
as having the market leverage right now to change other's behavior, so
why can't we at least have a temporary hack to make
evolution/connector interoperable with outlook/exchange, which I
thought was one of the major driving forces behind the project?