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Bug 149862 - gnome-panel-screenshot should have print option
gnome-panel-screenshot should have print option
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: gnome-utils
Classification: Deprecated
Component: screenshot
unspecified
Other All
: Normal enhancement
: ---
Assigned To: Jonathan Blandford
gnome-utils Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2004-08-11 00:24 UTC by T. James Leigh
Modified: 2007-05-02 18:04 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
patch (8.09 KB, patch)
2004-09-22 09:28 UTC, Simford
none Details | Review
Patch for current version of gnome-screenshot (7.53 KB, patch)
2005-10-31 03:17 UTC, Martyn Smith
none Details | Review

Description T. James Leigh 2004-08-11 00:24:06 UTC
When taking a screenshot the user should have the option to print right away.

  Currently to print a screenshot the user must save, then find it and open it
with a program that supports printing and print from there.

  At our QA department the technicians navigate through a program and when ever
they see something interesting they want to print it right away and review it
afterwards.  They have tried to change their ways and use the png copy, but many
people perfer a hard copy.
Comment 1 Simford 2004-09-22 09:28:33 UTC
Created attachment 31819 [details] [review]
patch

r = arvind?
Comment 2 Christian Neumair 2004-10-18 16:15:54 UTC
Thanks for your bug report James, thanks for your patch Simon.
I'd just like to ask a simple question: Is printing screenshots very common?
I've never done so, because it wastes a lot of ink.

regs,
 Chris
Comment 3 Jonathan Blandford 2004-11-10 08:33:25 UTC
I don't see a need for printing screenshots either.  Seems like it'd be really
rare.  You'd almost certainly want to open it up in the gimp anyway.  Unless a
compelling argument can be made, I'm closing this as NEEDINFO.
Comment 4 T. James Leigh 2005-01-03 13:40:48 UTC
In my Office our non-technical QA department is very paper based.  Every report
is made up of screenshots which they draw on and make comments, then staple
together.
  We did a trial run of introducing GNOME onto some workstations and printing
screenshots was one of the most common complaints.  Going through GIMP to print
was too overwhelming and time consuming (loading time) for the users.  It also
became unmanagable for them with so many screenshot that needed to be printed.
  Wasting Ink has never been an issue, they have always been doing this.  When
printing unix telnet screenshots, its white text on black background.
  Every QA test is followed by a printed screenshot for discusion and review.
Comment 5 Martyn Smith 2005-10-31 03:17:47 UTC
Created attachment 54115 [details] [review]
Patch for current version of gnome-screenshot

We are installing Gnome based systems as a desktop rollout for a client.
Printing of screenshots is a very common activity for these people.

We would really appreciate if this patch, or something along these lines could
be added to the standard functionality.

Note: we had trouble initially because libgnomeprint will always print at 72DPI
if the source has an alpha channel, so this patch saves the screenshot without
an alpha channel.

Many thanks,

Martyn
Comment 6 Thierry Moisan 2005-11-28 18:05:56 UTC
reopening the bug since there's a new patch and some new comments to have a
better explanation of the problem.
Comment 7 Emmanuele Bassi (:ebassi) 2006-07-01 22:12:51 UTC
pinning down for gtk+ 2.10 and printing support instead of using libgnomeprint
Comment 8 Luke Hutchison 2006-07-03 22:44:33 UTC
I print screenshots all the time -- most of the time though it's because Google Maps printing is so broken in Firefox.  (Just hitting Ctrl-P prints at full resolution, but transparencies are absent e.g. the route marker line; clicking the "Print" link on the top of the map prints at much lower resolution so that you can't read most street names.)

Also given that the key says "PrtScrn" it should probably have an option to print the screen, not just save it :-)

On a somewhat-related note:

It would also be nice to have a way to copy the screenshot to the clipboard (like in Windows), perhaps by adding a "Copy to Clipboard" button too, but I know that non-text clipboard issues are still not solved properly.

As an interim, implementing XDS might be useful, then you could drag the screenshot thumbnail to another program like the GIMP.
Comment 9 Emmanuele Bassi (:ebassi) 2006-08-25 12:15:34 UTC
you can already drag and drop a screenshot to Gimp.

I don't think that the screenshot tool should also print: it would end up replicating and/or needing the same stuff Gimp already does well.

closing as WONTFIX.
Comment 10 Luke Hutchison 2006-08-25 13:49:09 UTC
I don't think that logic follows.  That's almost like saying, "We should remove printing from EOG and gthumb because they duplicate functionality that the Gimp already does well."

In fact, the entire gnome-panel-screenshot program is duplicated by the Gimp!  In the Gimp, go File->Acquire->Screenshot.  So should gnome-panel-screenshot just be removed as redundant?

The point is that gnome-panel-screenshot is a core app in GNOME, the Gimp is not.   (It would be ridiculous but actually be more logical to move printing support for screenshots into gnome-panel-screenshot and remove it from the Gimp for the screenshots case; the problem is people want to print more than just screenshots, and there is no reason to remove printing from multiple applications just because one app prints a certain filetype well.)  Printing is not a function that is typically seen as redundant if present in multiple applications that serve different purposes.  Should printing be removed from gedit as redundant because the text can be dragged into OOo and printed from there?  This doesn't make sense at all.

Can you please re-open this to get a little more feedback from other people about comment #9, and so this doesn't fall off the radar yet?  If it is clear that in most people's minds, this app should not print, then I guess that's the way it is.

Comment 11 Emmanuele Bassi (:ebassi) 2006-08-25 14:51:50 UTC
> That's almost like saying, "We should remove printing from EOG and gthumb
> because they duplicate functionality that the Gimp already does well."

wrong: gnome-screenshot *takes* a screenshot. what you want to do with that image is relevant to you; gthumb and eog display and manage images, so it makes sense to have a "print" option inside those applications.  once you launched gnome-screenshot (either using the key combinatio or the launcher inside the menu), and the screenshot has been taken, gnome-screenshot saves the image for you to do what you want: edit it, move it to a ftp/web server, leave it to your disk for your own pleasure.  you don't even have to save it, if you want to print it: just drag the preview to eog or gimp.

> Can you please re-open this to get a little more feedback from other people
> about comment #9, and so this doesn't fall off the radar yet?

I consider this a WONTFIX.  if some of the people wanting this feature agree to code it and provide a patch for review, I'll REOPEN this bug and review the patch; otherwise, I don't see the point.