GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 120755
" Rand " Kdey should be pronounced as " Random"
Last modified: 2004-12-22 21:47:04 UTC
In scintific calculator, " Rand " key is read as " rand", should be read as " Random number ", as given in the tool tip. With the following steps problem can be reproduced. 1. start gnome session, start terminal window, start gnopernicus, & wait till you hear the sound. 2. start gcaltool application from application menu. 3. focus the " Rand " key, using arrow keys. 4. screen reader reads it as "rand", 5. It make good sense if screen reader reads it as " random number", as given in the tool tip.
Could you test with the latest version of gcalctool please. A lot of work has been done recently w.r.t. improving accessibility support and better keyboard handling. The latest version of gcalctool can be found under: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gcalctool/4.3/ Does the problem still occur with this version (with tooltips on)? The tooltip for the Rand key in the latest version is N_("Random number in the range 0.0 to 1.0") and the accessible text associated with that key is: N_("Random number"),
Rich: by 'accessible text associated with that key', do you mean the accessible-name property? I think that for pragmatic reasons we can't expect the default speech to be a lot different from what's onscreen - one might argue that making accessible name for "Rand" equal "random number" has its own drawbacks. It's not totally clear in this case, I will grant, but bearing in mind "bandwidth" and utterance-time issues, for some users "rand" would actually be preferred. Certainly it's a compromise between concision and clarity, and in most cases I think we're assuming that the text presented to the sighted user (except for symbols, etc.) is also appropriate as the spoken output. Reading the tooltips (i.e. accessible-descriptions) by default is not something we should expect the screenreader to do, the accessible-name property is the one generally spoken during "ordinary" navigation.
of course bug 120745 is a good illustration of when using accessible-name that's different from the onscreen label can be a good idea... :-)
Now I am using gcaltool version 4.3.2. The above problem has been taken care. Hence, I am closing this bug. Thanks for supporting & providing information.