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Bug 649242 - Keyboard shortcuts names are truncated
Keyboard shortcuts names are truncated
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: Keyboard
3.7.x
Other Linux
: High major
: ---
Assigned To: Control-Center Maintainers
Control-Center Maintainers
: 650063 650879 652184 659484 661210 661531 664126 690207 696516 696779 697865 698258 704209 707350 709683 719668 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2011-05-02 23:54 UTC by mailbox.tec
Modified: 2016-09-08 12:54 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
Screenshot illustrating the problem (51.51 KB, image/png)
2011-12-17 18:27 UTC, Patryk Zawadzki
Details
Truncated strings in Russian translation (62.80 KB, image/png)
2014-11-22 20:36 UTC, Yuri Myasoedov
Details
Screenshot illustrating the problem for French (38.96 KB, image/png)
2014-11-24 07:49 UTC, mathieu.clabaut
Details
In Russian version i have BUG (52.88 KB, image/png)
2016-04-01 08:32 UTC, Anton Maklakov
Details

Description mailbox.tec 2011-05-02 23:54:35 UTC
In keyboard configuration dialog, shortcuts tab, scrollable list that takes up main portion of the window has pre-determined column width. Action names that are longer than this width get trimmed, and it is the case with most of them. No tooltips are available either, and as a result, one can't tell what is particular shortcut being used for, making this config dialog virtually unusable.
Comment 1 Jon Dowland 2011-05-12 20:42:16 UTC
*** Bug 650063 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 2 Florian Müllner 2011-05-23 15:19:12 UTC
*** Bug 650879 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Bastien Nocera 2011-06-09 13:18:48 UTC
*** Bug 652184 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Robert Roth 2011-07-08 11:38:23 UTC
Confirming this with 3.1.3, and this bug already has three duplicates, so it should be set to NEW.
Comment 5 Jakub Steiner 2011-07-22 17:17:34 UTC
This is certainly a real issue for some locales. Expanding the ellipsized string with a tooltip on hover seems to be a sane thing to do, while being slightly smarter about the ellipsization another (mid-sentence rather than end).

I would not favor introducing a header to resize width.
Comment 6 Jon Dowland 2011-07-26 11:02:24 UTC
Urgh, I don't like the tooltip idea!   What about wrapping at the column boundary and having the cell be multi-line, vertically?
Comment 7 Bastien Nocera 2011-09-19 15:06:48 UTC
*** Bug 659484 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Bastien Nocera 2011-10-07 20:51:14 UTC
*** Bug 661210 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Bastien Nocera 2011-10-13 17:23:48 UTC
*** Bug 661694 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Bastien Nocera 2011-11-15 14:58:44 UTC
*** Bug 661531 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Bastien Nocera 2011-11-16 12:06:56 UTC
*** Bug 664126 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 André Klapper 2011-11-16 12:58:43 UTC
The amount of duplicates is enough to bump priority...
Comment 13 Ivan Georgiev 2011-12-17 00:14:53 UTC
Guys, I do not like the idea to push you for faster resolution, but I have to. Shortcut configuration is absolutely useless ( and I mean absolutely ) in other translations, until this is not resolved...
Comment 14 Patryk Zawadzki 2011-12-17 18:27:29 UTC
Created attachment 203740 [details]
Screenshot illustrating the problem
Comment 15 Patryk Zawadzki 2011-12-17 18:27:54 UTC
I've attached a screenshot showing this problem in pl_PL locale.
Comment 16 Tomasz Sterna 2011-12-17 19:29:41 UTC
Is there a reason why this window isn't resizable?
I's so small and just allowing the user to enlarge the window keeping the proportions of the columns on the right side would solve the issue.
Comment 17 André Klapper 2013-03-25 17:26:17 UTC
*** Bug 696516 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 18 Vladimir Didenko 2013-03-27 11:23:55 UTC
With the latest updates for the Russian translation gnome-control-center is unusable for keyboard layout configuring. "Modifiers-only switch to next source" was translated to "Только клавиши-модификаторы переключают на следующий источник" that is too long and column with settings is not shown at all. So you cannot configure keyboard layout using gnome-control-center and Russian locale.
Comment 19 Bastien Nocera 2013-04-03 10:06:41 UTC
*** Bug 690207 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 20 Bastien Nocera 2013-04-03 10:32:38 UTC
*** Bug 696779 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 21 Philippe "RzR" Coval 2013-04-05 16:39:16 UTC
this is still present in 3.8.0 using default locale (English) 

(ie "New accelerator" )

Btw are there specification on that special gnome-control-settings window because It cant be resized or adapted ? 

I dont see benefit to limit user interaction (ie no fullscreen)
Comment 22 Olaf van der Spek 2013-04-05 17:31:39 UTC
> Btw are there specification on that special gnome-control-settings window
because It cant be resized or adapted ? 

Some Gnome UI 'experts' think this provides a better user experience. Some users think otherwise.
Comment 23 tarnyko 2013-04-08 07:08:54 UTC
This seems to be fixed on my install :

http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/gcc_keyboard_resize.png

See pointer on the right, I can resize, thus expanding the translated column.

Could anybody confirm this ?
Comment 24 Bastien Nocera 2013-04-08 07:20:05 UTC
(In reply to comment #22)
> > Btw are there specification on that special gnome-control-settings window
> because It cant be resized or adapted ? 
> 
> Some Gnome UI 'experts' think this provides a better user experience. Some
> users think otherwise.

You can stop with the passive aggressive comments already.

(In reply to comment #23)
> This seems to be fixed on my install :
> 
> http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/gcc_keyboard_resize.png
> 
> See pointer on the right, I can resize, thus expanding the translated column.
> 
> Could anybody confirm this ?

The window is only resizable (and maximised by default) on small screens.
Comment 25 tarnyko 2013-04-08 07:34:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #24)
> The window is only resizable (and maximised by default) on small screens.

Ho yes, you are right. Former screenshot was taken at 800x600 ; changing the resolution to 1280x960, I wasn't able to resize the window anymore.

This is a very strange behavior. Having resizable headers, or fast-scrolling and fast-appearing tooltips, would seem fair enough as workarounds (and trivial to implement) ; I wouldn't argue though.
Comment 26 Rui Matos 2013-04-12 11:11:17 UTC
*** Bug 697865 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 27 Matthias Clasen 2013-04-13 20:34:25 UTC
The situation was made worse in 3.8.0 by an unintended change of treeview behaviour in GTK+. I've reverted the change, so 3.8.1 will now have long descriptions push the shortcuts out of the visible area anymore.
Comment 28 Rui Matos 2013-04-18 12:40:11 UTC
*** Bug 698258 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 29 Allan Day 2013-04-23 22:38:23 UTC
It seems that the right-hand column could be narrower in many situations; it might be worth exploring whether its size could be adjusted depending on the language.

That said, this problem will go away with the new Settings application design:

https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Settings/#Tentative_Design
Comment 30 Kat 2013-04-23 22:55:22 UTC
(In reply to comment #29)
> It seems that the right-hand column could be narrower in many situations; it
> might be worth exploring whether its size could be adjusted depending on the
> language.

When I was testing a few weeks ago, the right hand column was not wide enough either (see bug 696516) and "New accelerator" was not showing at the start and end, so what I actually saw was "ew accelerat"…

> That said, this problem will go away with the new Settings application design:

How will the new designs help with the column sizing, unless you are proposing some new way of displaying the shortcuts list?
Comment 31 Allan Day 2013-04-23 23:18:59 UTC
(In reply to comment #30)
> (In reply to comment #29)
> > It seems that the right-hand column could be narrower in many situations; it
> > might be worth exploring whether its size could be adjusted depending on the
> > language.
> 
> When I was testing a few weeks ago, the right hand column was not wide enough
> either (see bug 696516) and "New accelerator" was not showing at the start and
> end, so what I actually saw was "ew accelerat"…

Ah well, it was just an idea. :)

> > That said, this problem will go away with the new Settings application design:
> 
> How will the new designs help with the column sizing, unless you are proposing
> some new way of displaying the shortcuts list?

The window will be bigger, and will probably be resizable.
Comment 32 Kat 2013-04-24 08:26:39 UTC
(In reply to comment #31)
> (In reply to comment #30)
> > (In reply to comment #29)
> > > That said, this problem will go away with the new Settings application design:
> > 
> > How will the new designs help with the column sizing, unless you are proposing
> > some new way of displaying the shortcuts list?
> 
> The window will be bigger, and will probably be resizable.

Sounds great, really looking forward to it being implemented!
Comment 33 Bastien Nocera 2013-07-25 09:10:56 UTC
*** Bug 704209 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 34 VasilisToumpakaris 2013-07-28 22:10:57 UTC
I have an idea! When cursor goes to a long message, this message goes back an forth so we can see it! Is this easy to achieve it?
Comment 35 Bastien Nocera 2013-09-04 19:54:34 UTC
*** Bug 707350 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 36 Peter 2013-09-05 05:59:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #29)
> That said, this problem will go away with the new Settings application design:
> 
> https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Settings/#Tentative_Design

There is no mokup for keyboard acceleration window? How it will look like, or how would you avoid long lines?
Comment 37 Tomasz Sterna 2013-09-05 13:03:32 UTC
(In reply to comment #31)
> > How will the new designs help with the column sizing, unless you are proposing
> > some new way of displaying the shortcuts list?
> 
> The window will be bigger, and will probably be resizable.

Assuming user screen resolution and font sizing combination makes the translation strings fit the designed place.
Comment 38 Bastien Nocera 2013-10-09 11:38:17 UTC
*** Bug 709683 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 39 Francois Gouget 2013-12-01 09:55:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #34)
> I have an idea! When cursor goes to a long message, this message goes back an
> forth so we can see it! Is this easy to achieve it?

Popping up a tooltip with the full string would be better: it avoids having a string that scrolls too fast for some and too slow for others.

That said having resizable columns and/or a resizable window would be even better (and can be combined with having the tooltips).
Comment 40 Bastien Nocera 2013-12-02 06:41:50 UTC
*** Bug 719668 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 41 Kat 2014-11-22 11:29:37 UTC
This bug appears to be fixed in the 3.14.2 as the columns expand to fit the longest string while the window is not resizeable and is big enough to fit the two longest strings.

Is anyone still experiencing the problem? Maybe with other languages?
Comment 42 Yuri Myasoedov 2014-11-22 20:36:37 UTC
Created attachment 291274 [details]
Truncated strings in Russian translation

Yes, it's still valid. I've attached a screenshot with Russian translation.
Comment 43 mathieu.clabaut 2014-11-24 07:49:54 UTC
Created attachment 291338 [details]
Screenshot illustrating the problem for French
Comment 44 Anton Maklakov 2016-04-01 08:32:39 UTC
Created attachment 325132 [details]
In Russian version i have BUG
Comment 45 Anton Maklakov 2016-04-01 08:46:11 UTC
(In reply to Anton Maklakov from comment #44)
> Created attachment 325132 [details]
> In Russian version i have BUG

I have many bugs espessialy in "Lage text"-mode (Settings -> Universal Access), but in normal-mode too.
Comment 46 Bastien Nocera 2016-09-08 12:54:08 UTC
This shouldn't be a problem any more with the new keyboard panel in GNOME 3.22, which doesn't have a sidebar to take up most of the space anymore.

If there are problems in specific locales with the new panel, please file a new bug.