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Bug 163135 - Windowlist should "minimize" buttons for minimized windows
Windowlist should "minimize" buttons for minimized windows
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 91655
Product: libwnck
Classification: Core
Component: general
unspecified
Other Linux
: Normal enhancement
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Assigned To: libwnck maintainers
libwnck maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2005-01-06 15:56 UTC by joh
Modified: 2005-01-08 14:28 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.7/2.8



Description joh 2005-01-06 15:56:47 UTC
For minimized windows the Window List Applet just fades the icon a bit and puts
brackets around the window name. This is not only very subtle, it actually
defeats the purpose of minimizing windows (cleaning up the workspace to be able
to concentrate on the actual used windows). 

Suggestion: Make it so that the Window List buttons of minimized windows are
also minimized by displaying only the icon (and not the title) of the window
then. This would help in more than one way. First, you could tell apart
minimized and not minimized windows much easier. Second, cleaning up the screen
by minimizing currently unimportant windows would also clean up the Window List,
since the windows not minimized have more space now on the List. Third, it would
comply to Fitt's law since it'd be easier to hit an un-minimized window (which
has a much wider button then) than a minimized window. After all you minimize a
window only when you don't plan to use it for some time, so minimizing it's
button on the Window List seems just The Right Thing to do, HIG-wise.

I think the popularity of panel applets is due the fact that an applet is the
only way to have a window/app easy accessible without having it permanently
block a full slot in the Window List. Being able to minimize a window and have
it's button in the Window List shrink to the icon would be a major relief here.

I think it could be a good idea to implement this, either as an option or even
as default behaviour.
Comment 1 Elijah Newren 2005-01-06 19:03:49 UTC
Your whole argument hinges on the assumption that the window list will be used
predominantly for un-minimized windows.  That sounds totally counterintuitive to
me, because the _only_ thing I use the window list for is to recover minimized
windows.  For those, your proposal: (1) makes it harder to tell the windows
apart when you want to recover one, and (2) it violates Fitt's Law by making the
unminimized window you're trying to select as small as possible.

This seems odd to me, especially considering bug 84411.  I'll mark this as a
duplicate of bug 91655 ("Figure out how minimized windows should be marked vs.
normal windows") and mention your request specifically, as well as add a comment
to bug 81222 ("Figure out the common usage modes") about your request.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 91655 ***
Comment 2 Elijah Newren 2005-01-06 19:12:27 UTC
Actually, I think I forgot something.  I think I do use the window list
occasionally to raise an active yet totally obscured window.  However, I do
predominantly use it for minimized windows.
Comment 3 Benjamin Kahn 2005-01-06 19:41:56 UTC
Fun anecdote: When Ximian GNOME 1.4 came out we allowed people to select from a
number of different panel layouts.  One of the panel layouts was intended to
look like CDE.  Since CDE doesn't use a windowlist (but instead iconizes to the
desktop) we didn't include a windowlist at all.  

Some of the first bug reports that came in showed that whole companies were
using the CDE layout and that people were losing windows whenever they minimized
them.  (We had to make a FAQ pointing out Alt-TAB and issue an update soon after.)