GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 719881
Useless white space below window's title bar
Last modified: 2015-04-28 06:20:43 UTC
Description of problem: This version of Gnome reintroduces waste of vertical space again. Gnome terminal, Remmina etc. all come with a strip of useless white (well, grey) space below the title bar. This makes windows unnecessarily bigger (vertically) and wastes precious pixels on a wide screen display. I don't really know which Gnome component is responsible for this, so assigning to desktop for now. Maybe it is the adwaita theme - no idea. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): gnome-themes-standard-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 How reproducible: Always. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Run most any Gnome app. Actual results: Wastes vertical space. Expected results: This was not the case in F-19. Additional info: See downstream bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1037786
Ping... Two months and zero replies to this bug...
Another ping... Isn't there anyone on Gnome development/design team that cares to fix this waste of vertical space?
Hi Bojan, sorry for not replying to this sooner. The designs have actually been updated since 3.10, and it's hard to tell exactly what changed between 3.8.x and 3.10.x. If you could post comparison screenshots that would be useful.
You can see the screenshots in the downstream bug. F20: loads of unwanted "white" space: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=832279 F19: the opposite: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=832280 Essentially, that's the difference between Gnome 3.8 and 3.10. To see why this is objectively worse, read this comment in the downstream bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1037786#c8
(In reply to comment #4) > You can see the screenshots in the downstream bug. > > F20: loads of unwanted "white" space: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=832279 > > F19: the opposite: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=832280 > > Essentially, that's the difference between Gnome 3.8 and 3.10. ... Those images don't seem to be full size. Can you provide full size screenshots of 3.8, 3.10 and 3.12?
Created attachment 275966 [details] Comparison of white space in the title bar: 3.8 v 3.10 I never mentioned 3.12 - I don't have any machine that runs it. I also don't have F-19 any more, but it was trivial to do this in Gimp to compare the two.
Those screenshots look scaled down. I can provide a 3.12 screenshot, but it's hard to comment without knowing exactly how the size has changed (in pixels).
(In reply to comment #7) > Those screenshots look scaled down. I can provide a 3.12 screenshot, but it's > hard to comment without knowing exactly how the size has changed (in pixels). They are not scaled down. I just like small font inside Gnome Terminal. I'll attach you a screenshot from F-20 and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Created attachment 275967 [details] Gnome Terminal on F-20
You can see from the screenshot of the terminal how much white space is above/below the title. If you look at the window controls, it is also obvious how out of proportion the whole thing is.
Created attachment 275969 [details] Gnome Terminal on F-20: Clearlooks Just as a point of comparison, here is a screenshot with Clearlooks theme selected. The proportions are more "normal". Take a look at window controls on the right, for instance - there is only necessary white space above/below.
I have to disagree with your point of view. Whitespace isn't useless. Along with grid it's the cornerstone of visual design. With headerbars and focusing on common actions we were able to increase the usable vertical screen estate and cut down on chrome without lowering legibility and making the font size so tiny.
(In reply to comment #12) > I have to disagree with your point of view. Whitespace isn't useless. Along > with grid it's the cornerstone of visual design. There is no "point of view" - three terminal windows no longer fit on my screen vertically and there is nothing more to see in the title bar than previously. Ergo, the addition of _that_ space is useless.
Good enough workaround: $ cat .config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css .header-bar.default-decoration { padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; } .header-bar.default-decoration .button.titlebutton { padding-top: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; }