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Bug 653591 - No more help buttons on C-C components are available
No more help buttons on C-C components are available
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 675471
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: general
3.0.x
Other All
: Normal major
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Assigned To: Control-Center Maintainers
Control-Center Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2011-06-28 20:10 UTC by Baptiste Mille-Mathias
Modified: 2012-05-18 10:41 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.91/3.0


Description Baptiste Mille-Mathias 2011-06-28 20:10:36 UTC 
Since GNOME 3, in the control-center's components there is no more help provided, this is a severe regression in the user experience.

This point should be clarified asap I think.
Comment 1 Baptiste Mille-Mathias 2011-06-29 07:02:10 UTC 
Hi,

Regarding the modification of the severity, clearly this is not an enhancement, because the feature was implemented previous in the 2.x branch *AND* help is part of the core part of the desktop.

I think it should be targeted for 3.2
Comment 2 Bastien Nocera 2011-07-14 13:58:09 UTC 
I'm guessing we should add a "per panel" help, in a similar way that we show the "unlock" button.
Comment 3 Andreas Nilsson 2011-07-22 17:42:46 UTC 
The 2.x buttons ate vertical space from every panel and for pure egocentric reasons I want the control center to fit on my netbook. :)
Mccann mentioned on IRC that a help item could make sense in the app menu.
Comment 4 Jakub Steiner 2011-07-22 18:04:10 UTC 
The general pattern to get help is through the app menu. Repeating the help button all over the UI in not desirable.
Comment 5 Baptiste Mille-Mathias 2012-02-17 09:45:06 UTC 
Having help in applications and control center "panel" are different, because the help for the panel would be focused on the actions of the current panel. 
For instance, in the network component, I want to have indication on what is the "Flight mode" and what it does. And IMHO having to start the application related to the panel for the sole aim to have the help is not really relevant.

SO I think it makes sense to have help included in the control-center.
Comment 6 Shaun McCance 2012-02-28 00:16:58 UTC 
The help files are provided by gnome-user-docs, and I don't see a reason to change that. In theory, we could maintain the files in gnome-control-center, and they could plug into gnome-help at install time. That would make them more reusable in case e.g. other environments want to repurpose gnome-control-center. But it's a huge maintenance burden for us to do it that way.

It's no secret that I don't like opaque Help controls, that I think Help controls should tell you exactly where they're taking you. But until I have time to retool things again for the latest designs, the best we've got is a Help item in the app menu, I guess. As long as it's allowed to be context-sensitive. Otherwise it's completely useless.

Andreas: there's a *lot* of horizontal space in the toolbar.
Comment 7 William Jon McCann 2012-05-04 20:49:05 UTC 
Help should go into the app menu I think. Bug 675471
Comment 8 Bastien Nocera 2012-05-18 10:41:31 UTC 
Thanks for the bug report. This particular bug has already been reported into our bug tracking system, but please feel free to report any further bugs you find.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 675471 ***