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Bug 471486 - Spam folder should be a normal folder
Spam folder should be a normal folder
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 206061
Product: evolution
Classification: Applications
Component: Mailer
2.12.x
Other Linux
: Normal enhancement
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Assigned To: evolution-mail-maintainers
Evolution QA team
Depends on:
Blocks: 483733
 
 
Reported: 2007-08-29 17:54 UTC by Jonathan Ernst
Modified: 2013-09-13 00:53 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Jonathan Ernst 2007-08-29 17:54:06 UTC
Please make the Spam folders normal folders (like "Sent" and "Drafts") and make it possible to choose the Spam folder destination in the preferences just like "Sent" and "Drafts".

Advantages :

- makes the interface more consistant (no reason that Sent and Spam folders have to be treated differently
- makes it possible to add filters that move mails in this spam folder even if they are not marked as spam by any spam plugin (like filtering on sender name, subject, whatever)
- many people have already basic spam filtering server side but without this enhancement it's not possible to make the spams filtered server side and client side end up in the same folder
- when several people access the same account spam filtering must not be redone for each client as the mails would be actually moved into a folder
Comment 1 C de-Avillez 2007-08-29 18:57:24 UTC
Ubuntu original bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/135485
Comment 2 André Klapper 2007-09-03 09:20:45 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> - makes it possible to add filters that move mails in this spam folder even if
> they are not marked as spam by any spam plugin (like filtering on sender name,
> subject, whatever)

this has been possible for ages, don't use the "move" filter but the "status" filter and set it to "is | junk"

> - many people have already basic spam filtering server side but without this
> enhancement it's not possible to make the spams filtered server side and client
> side end up in the same folder

if you have server side filtering, you normally do not need client side filtering at all

> - when several people access the same account spam filtering must not be redone
> for each client as the mails would be actually moved into a folder

that's a usecase for server side filtering.
Comment 3 Jonathan Ernst 2007-09-03 09:34:03 UTC
>this has been possible for ages, don't use the "move" filter but the "status"
>filter and set it to "is | junk"

Ok, I didn't notice it. However, most users won't guess that SPAM is not a folder but some kind of virtual folder that shows mails whose status is junk and thus won't guess they have to set the filtering action on the "status" of the mail instead of just moving it.

>if you have server side filtering, you normally do not need client side
>filtering at all

Most users don't have their own mail server and rely on ISP's spam filtering. Of course ISP's spam filtering is far from perfect because

1) many ISP don't have very good spam filtering
2) they can't filter too strongly because it could lead to false positives
3) some mails can be considered spam by some people and ham by others so client side filtering can refine spam filtering

>that's a usecase for server side filtering.

Same as above : most people cannot affect server side filtering as they don't control their ISP's filters
Comment 4 Jonathan Ernst 2007-10-05 13:29:05 UTC
The same issue exists with the Trash folder (see Bug #206061)

Every time I login onto my IMAP server using another client or Webmail I have two Junk folders and two Trash folders in Evolution because of this...

Comment 5 Jonathan Ernst 2007-10-05 13:49:52 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 206061 ***