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Bug 169902 - It would be nice to have bookmarks...
It would be nice to have bookmarks...
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: evince
Classification: Core
Component: general
0.1.x
Other All
: Normal enhancement
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Assigned To: Evince Maintainers
Evince Maintainers
: 438566 551487 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2005-03-11 04:10 UTC by Laurent Martelli
Modified: 2008-09-09 10:48 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Laurent Martelli 2005-03-11 04:10:17 UTC
... for very big documents
Comment 1 Bryan W Clark 2005-03-11 07:03:22 UTC
Laurent:  Could you be very specific about the size of the document, what type
of document it is.  How often you open the document?  When you open the
document, what are you looking for; where do you go in the document to get the
information you need?  How do you currently get to where you need in the
document?  Do you reference a single document for multiple areas?  How are you
going back and forth to those areas now?

In your response please be as explicit as possible.  Avoid giving responses
where you just say I need a bookmark to jump from here to here as they are not
useful.  Give a clear example of what you're doing where you believe bookmarks
would be nice, but don't indicate why you think they'd be nice.  Simply describe
the situation in as much detail as possible. 

I'm going to keep closing requests for a bookmarks system until we get clear
ideas on what people are doing.  I really need to watch users who are opening
and using large documents with a document viewer.  If the best I can get is
interviews like this I need that, I'm not going to just add any old bookmarks
system since I don't want the clutter and I don't think it will solve the
problem (if my hunch of what the real problem is true).  
Comment 2 Laurent Martelli 2005-03-11 15:16:46 UTC
I've been working with the PDF 1.6 reference document these days. It's huge:
1236 pages. There are a few parts I often refer to. Although there's an index,
since the document is huge, I have to scroll it a lot to find what I'm looking
for. With bookmarks, I could go where I want to in 2 key hits.
Comment 3 Bryan W Clark 2005-06-14 20:24:04 UTC
Nope, I've decided against bookmarks.  We have plans to add annotations to
Evince and you can use those like bookmarks, they probably will act just like
them.  However I'm not interested in a separate bookmarking system.
Comment 4 Nickolay V. Shmyrev 2008-07-13 19:37:21 UTC
*** Bug 438566 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 pf 2008-07-14 10:00:34 UTC
Hello,

Bryan W. Clark wrote over three years ago:
> I'm going to keep closing requests for a bookmarks system until we get clear
> ideas on what people are doing.

I stumbled over this here now.  Recently I tried to solve the 
following use case for us:  We run evince as a help file viewer from
some application program.  Currently we use the command line option
--page-label= to jump to a specific section of the help manual to display
information related to dialogue of the program in question.  It would
be very helpful, if the page-label option could use some kind of
bookmark or symbolic label instead of a page number.  Currently we 
use a shell script wrapper around evince, which uses a special handcrafted
file for each foreign language to translate the label or bookmark into
the page number of this PDF file which is than given to evince.  
Of course this is tedious and cumbersome to maintain.

So may be my description of a particular use case makes one of the
applications of a bookmark system more clear.

Kind regards, Peter Funk
Comment 6 Nickolay V. Shmyrev 2008-07-15 22:21:01 UTC
Thanks for your comment, Peter. I really think it's not quite related to bookmarks. Evince can move the view to a certain location (point in index or something like that) with dbus currently, I don't think there is a problem to add an option to do the same from a command line. You just need to generate index in pdf document.
Comment 7 Pascal Terjan 2008-09-09 10:48:14 UTC
*** Bug 551487 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***