GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 131793
Change "Create" in two desktop context menu items to "New"
Last modified: 2012-07-20 14:12:56 UTC
Most applications use the term "New" in menus, such as GEdit, the GNOME panel, and RhythmBox. Using "Create" in a menu to mean the same thing as "New" is inconsistent and confusing.
You might look at bug 77292 where changing it from "New" -> "Create" was lobbied for.
As of today, Nautilus still uses "Create". We should either resolve this as NOTABUG or revert to the previous "New" terminology.
The argumentation from bug 77292 is that "New" is not appropriate since it suggests that a new windows is opened, which is not the case. Closing.
Windows and Mac both use New. First, they each have a dedicated team of UI designers. Second, most computers run either Windows or Mac. I suggest using New for these two reasons.
My interpretation of bug 77292 is that "New" was only confusing when there were a mixture of "New" items on the menu, some of which opened new windows, and some of which didn't. Now that nautilus only has those items that create new files/folders, I'm actually inclined to agree that it might make sense to go back to "New Document" and "New Folder".
Yeah, I agree with you Calum.
Created attachment 49468 [details] [review] Proposed patch against HEAD I've also submitted this patch to the nautilus mailing list [1] for review. [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/nautilus-list/2005-July/msg00261.html
Using "new [xyz]" is problematic in some languages, where "new" changes form depending of the gender of "[xyz]". In Swedish for example, "new document" is "nytt dokument", but "new folder" is "ny mapp". You avoid all this by just using "create".
Is that really a problem when 'New Document' and 'New Folder' would be separate menu items? I'm not being facetious, I'd just like to be educated :)
When I were still translating Nautilus, I decided to just go with "Ordner anlegen", which is the word-by-word translation of "Create folder". Semantically there is no difference. Don't worry, just do what your feel for language tells you.
Calum, you're right. As long as they are separate menu items it isn't a problem.
[1] gets it right: We have to adapt gnome-desktop-item-edit as well before committing this. [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/nautilus-list/2005-July/msg00279.html
*** Bug 565050 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Nautilus 3.1 offers "Create New Folder" and "Create New Document" in the file browser. Desktop is by default gnome-shell nowadays and no Nautilus responsibility anymore. Is this sufficient enough to close this, or what is still left (and what are exact steps to find these places in the 3.x UI)?
This should be fixed in master.