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Bug 97664 - proposal for inclusion: netspeed and led_applet
proposal for inclusion: netspeed and led_applet
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: gnome-applets
Classification: Other
Component: general
git master
Other other
: Normal enhancement
: ---
Assigned To: gnome-applets Maintainers
gnome-applets Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2002-11-04 20:36 UTC by Jörgen Scheibengruber
Modified: 2005-10-26 18:38 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: Unversioned Enhancement



Description Jörgen Scheibengruber 2002-11-04 20:36:16 UTC
I am the author of 2 gnome2 applets, netspeed_applet and led_applet
(http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ and http://mfcn.ilo.de/led_applet).
Mainly for making life easier for me and translators, I intended to host
these in gnome cvs and applied for an cvs account.

Here is the answer I got from Greg Leblanc (aka cvsmaster@gnome.org):
"I'd suggest contacting the gnome-applets maintainers about getting your
applets into the gnome-applets CVS module.  If not, they can probably go
into their own modules in CVS.  Let us know what the gnome-applets
maintainers say (or have them mail us).  Thanks,
    Greg"

That's what I'm doing now. I hope bugzilla isn't the absolutly wrong way to
do so...

Jörgen
Comment 1 Jörgen Scheibengruber 2002-11-04 22:18:16 UTC
My ~/garnome/lib/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc says:

gtk_binary_version=2.0.0

Version: 2.0.6

Jörgen

Comment 2 Jörgen Scheibengruber 2002-11-04 22:20:20 UTC
oops :-(
wrong bug report, sorry!
is it possible to delete this?
Comment 3 Kevin Vandersloot 2002-11-04 23:23:07 UTC
The led-applet shouldn't go into gnome-applets. I think you should
consider improving the network portion of the system monitor
applet(multiload) instead of providing a seperate applet for network
monitoring
Comment 4 Jörgen Scheibengruber 2002-11-04 23:50:53 UTC
hmm, what exactly do you understand under "improving"? How many
changes would be possible?
Comment 5 Kjartan Maraas 2003-10-26 11:58:19 UTC
Any number of changes are possible I think. What I also think is that
bugzilla isn't the right place for a discussion about whether an
applet goes into gnome-applets or not. :-)

Did you get your account and so on?
Comment 6 Jörgen Scheibengruber 2003-10-26 12:12:44 UTC
Yepp I have. I haven't put the applets into cvs (yet), because I had
heared from several sides that its not that appreciated if gnome cvs
has lots of applet "flying around" in their own modules.
Comment 7 Danielle Madeley 2004-10-25 12:48:41 UTC
Should this bug be open?
Comment 8 Jörgen Scheibengruber 2004-10-25 20:09:23 UTC
From my side, I have nothing against closing it... 
Comment 9 Benoît Dejean 2005-06-05 18:43:59 UTC
no netspeed is hosted on cvs.gnome.org, why not moving it to gnome-applets ?
netspeed is a great applet and recent changes have made it more portable and
more usable (the new icons are very nice).

There no redundancy between multiload and netspeed. multiload displays network
history (network activity) where netspeed displays instant speed. As most of
netspeed users, i don't run multiload->netload because netspeed shows me what i
really want to know.
Comment 10 Danielle Madeley 2005-06-09 08:50:18 UTC
There is talk of creating a gnome-applets-extras, perhaps it will have a home there.
Comment 11 Benoît Dejean 2005-06-09 08:58:48 UTC
where ? why netspeed would not be in gnome-applets ?
Comment 12 Danielle Madeley 2005-06-09 09:59:25 UTC
gnome-applets is quite a big package already. We're looking at rearranging the
source package location of applets, taking them from panel to -applets and
moving ones that are not really core applets into -applets-extras.

The idea is to offer people what they need, and then let them get more if they
want it.
Comment 13 Héctor Enríquez Díaz 2005-07-02 05:17:38 UTC
i've using netsped for a while and i guess is the more functional applet for the
network, i really don't like gnome-netstatus because it doesn't show a good
information only blinking icons, so i think netspeed have to be on the
gnome-applets package.

Is only a opinion for a  user.
Comment 14 Sergey V. Udaltsov 2005-07-05 23:37:46 UTC
Would it make sense to merge LED applet to the keyboard indicator? It looks like
it belongs there... And it would not be that difficult as well.
Comment 15 Danielle Madeley 2005-08-03 16:59:41 UTC
What does the LED applet do?
Comment 16 Benoît Dejean 2005-08-03 17:37:43 UTC
It displays keyboard status : it's useful on laptop that don't have keyboard leds.
Comment 17 Karel Demeyer 2005-08-21 22:11:40 UTC
it's also very usefull for wireless keyboards, they don't have leds most of the
time (to not consume to much battery)
Comment 18 Benoît Dejean 2005-10-26 14:01:58 UTC
ping ?
Comment 19 Danielle Madeley 2005-10-26 15:14:18 UTC
It is worth noting that most wireless keyboards have the LEDs on the base station.

Consistent with Kevin's original decision. I do not want to move these into the
base package at this time.
Comment 20 Benoît Dejean 2005-10-26 15:24:07 UTC
netspeed is not led_applet
Comment 21 Danielle Madeley 2005-10-26 15:31:35 UTC
In concordance with my new policy of getting gnome-applets leaner. I do not want
to add this applet. Please stop reopening this bug.

Too many applets have ended up abandoned, even by the best intentioned authors,
and left for the G-A maintainers to continue to support. A number of these
applets have been removed as there are better third party replacements. The
question is if the functionality is critical inside the GNOME core or if it is
simply enough to have it built on our platform.

Inclusion into Desktop should not be a sign of any particular standard or
quality, but simply that it is a critical piece of software that a desktop
should not be without. A quick litmus test is that my mother does not know what
a MB is, so should not be subjected to such quantative information. She does
know what a capacity is, which is where the graphs are more accessible to a
wider number of users.

There is nothing to stop people developing and shipping a netspeed applet.
However, I do not feel that it belongs inside G-A.
Comment 22 Benoît Dejean 2005-10-26 15:41:56 UTC
I didn't want to bug you, i just wanted a clear answer. Thanks.
Comment 23 Vincent Untz 2005-10-26 18:30:14 UTC
"It is worth noting that most wireless keyboards have the LEDs on the base station."

Davyd: I'm not reopening the bug, but let me disagree :-) It's not true. And you
don't always see the base station. I think the LED applet would be really useful
for a lot of people.

(I agree that netspeed shouldn't be included, though: it's nice, but a bit too
'poweruser' ;-)).
Comment 24 Danielle Madeley 2005-10-26 18:38:46 UTC
LED status could be a useful feature. It would be nice to integrate it with the
keyboard preferences. This comes back to my requirements for different types of
applets.