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Bug 93236 - Archive Gnotices (the old gnome news site)
Archive Gnotices (the old gnome news site)
Status: VERIFIED WONTFIX
Product: website
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: blogs.gnome.org
current
Other All
: Normal minor
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Assigned To: Quim Gil
Quim Gil
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2002-09-13 17:04 UTC by Alan Horkan
Modified: 2006-08-28 07:22 UTC
See Also:
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Description Alan Horkan 2002-09-13 17:04:25 UTC
Gnotices may be gone but Jeff Waugh has agreed that it would be good to
archive Gnotices.  

I will add more if necessary but since i have already discussed this with
Jeff and he agrees that it is on the TODO list for a change i dont need to
be verbose
Comment 1 Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller 2002-09-23 14:44:15 UTC
Adding jdub to this bug as I have no clue what to do with it :)
Comment 2 Jeff Waugh 2002-09-23 14:52:49 UTC
Thanks Christian, I got this a while back anyway (i'm owner on website
bugs). :-) Haven't got to it yet, still fixing up the remaining FTP
migration bits.
Comment 3 Quim Gil 2005-12-19 22:12:37 UTC
Is anyone still claiming Gnotices should be archived?

If not I will close this bug.
Comment 4 Alan Horkan 2005-12-19 22:55:21 UTC
I'd like to see it happen.  The more Gnome related content on the web the better, he who shouts loudest...

At this stage it is of even more historical interest, a real slice of Gnome life the kind of thing we get nowadays we get more from developer journals on Planet Gnome we got from Gnotices.  
("Do you remember when we didn't used to be nostalgic" ;)

I had hoped a static copy of Gnotices might have been restored shortly after it was shut down but that didn't happen and the longer it goes the less likely it is anyone will be interested in making it happen.  

I do still think it would still be good to have but there are many other more important good things we could all be doing so if Jeff wants to quietly admit defeat and close this I wont complain (much).  
Comment 5 Quim Gil 2005-12-19 23:09:48 UTC
There is a Catalan saying: who lose their origins lose their identity.

I'll try to find out where are the Gnotices now and, if recoverable, see how would they fit in the long gnome.org revamp process.

Can't promise anything. Any advice from the vets is welcome.
Comment 6 Germán Poo-Caamaño 2005-12-20 13:59:34 UTC
You can see history of gnotices at archive.org:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://gnotices.gnome.org
Comment 7 Alan Horkan 2005-12-20 15:47:40 UTC
The Web Archive helps but it doesn't seem to actually include very much of the site, quite a few of the links I followed were not archived.  
Comment 8 Yaron Tausky 2006-01-07 11:05:07 UTC
Reopening.
Comment 9 Quim Gil 2006-01-08 00:50:37 UTC
Is this what you are looking for, the data that needs to be recovered?

http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/web/news/
Comment 10 Alan Horkan 2006-01-09 00:27:26 UTC
That news module you pointed to seems to be something quite different.  

Gnotices was sort of news site like Slashdot, similiar to what Gnomedesktop.org provides today.  Before the days of Planet Gnome it provided a really important view into the development community.  
Comment 11 Quim Gil 2006-08-24 11:55:18 UTC
We haven't found Gnotices in 4 years. I someone wants to find them and make a public archive with them, the web maintainers will be all ears.

Closing this old bug as wontfix, though. I tried. Sorry.
Comment 12 Alan Horkan 2006-08-27 01:02:47 UTC
Thanks for your efforts Quim.  

At the time Gnotices did interviews with Gnome developers, picking a different one each week and it provided some very interesting insights and told you things you would hardly ever find out except perhaps while sitting around a table enjoying a meal at GUADEC.  

Nowadays since more developer keep journals there is a lot more information out there and people helping promote Gnome in their own way.  

gnotices was an interesting slice of life at the time and it is a shame it wasn't archived at the time but the Web Archive did manage to grab some of it and it is so long ago that at this stage I'm willing to call it quits 

Thanks anyway.  
Comment 13 Quim Gil 2006-08-28 07:22:15 UTC
As a journalist I fully understand the importance of keeping history in archives. However, this case seems to be impossible at this stage.

I made a last attempt, but Owen's comments give no hope:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-web-list/2006-August/msg00047.html

"I don't see it anywhere around window ... if it existed it would be a
gigantic opaque image for an ancient version of zope, so not necessarily
at all easily recoverable, in any case.

So, to the best of my knowledge gnotices is gone except for it's
presence on web.archive.org."