GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 89188
Throbber is too small or Toolbar is too tall
Last modified: 2005-10-11 14:27:58 UTC
This might sound weird, but one of the things I don't like about the Nautilus UI is the tiny throbber that has way too much padding to the toolbar borders top and bottom. This is probably not possible soon but in the long run I would be glad if this could be improved by either changing the size of the throbbers, creating new one, somehow visually improve them (a relief around them?) or by more compact toolbars (Galeon has very nice compact toolbars). P.S.: I just found out that the throbber of "scalable Gorilla" scales perfectly. That is probably what SVG is good for but it would still be nice if other throbbers would be of a similar size.
Hrm. Could swear this is a dup but can't find it. Not my day.
daniel what theme do you use. the throbber scales nicely for me with the gnome theme.
It looks quite good with the GNOME theme as this doesn't use a square button as throbber. The default theme looks worse as you can clearly see the large padding above and below the throbber button (as opposed to the fine padding to the right). I believe now that this is mostly just a sideeffect of the pretty large toolbar paddings. Changing severity to enhancement, image attachment follows.
Created attachment 10849 [details] Compact layout looks better (IMHO), takes less space and is more consistent with most other GNOME apps. Possible usability tradeoff?
daniel i don't understand where there is a bug here. 1. throbber does scale? 2. the icons+text preference is a global gnome preference, and is widely considered to be better than just icons or icon+priority text (fitts law).
Yes it does scale but it still seems rather "floating". Compare the "current layout"s to the "compact layout"s (those are created with Gimp). You could say the compact layout would be my suggestion to make the Nautilus UI visually more appealing. This topic is mentioned quite often on the mailinglists, too so I wonder if this could be done or if some people prefer the current (big) layout or if it has some important usability reason (it makes the buttons a tiny but larger, but...). I only showed both text below icons and priority text to see how it would look in both mode, I don't think that priority text is superiour (at least I don't have a strong opinion about that and use text below icons right now). If the layout is not to be changed (made more compact) for a certain reason, then I say the throbber is still (a bit) too small. Most notable in text below icons mode. You could say that it's a detail, but a detail that looks bad and that people see all the time.
Ahhh...now I understand. This really has nothing to do with the throbber or nautilus though right. This is more of a general bonobo (perhaps gtk???) toolbar bug right? I'll cc michael as he may have insight.
It's all user twaks in the UI xml. It's certainly not a gtk bug, and most likely not a bonobo bug.
daniel, I think we should retitle this bug, since the issue you seem to be presenting is that the nautilus toolbars are too tall right?
Yes, I think so. Either the toolbars are too tall or the throbber is too small. I don't want to assume that everybody agrees with my taste so I don't know if the large toolbars are maybe a design decision. I noticed that some other GNOME 2 applications have the same toolbar padding (like gedit, gthumb, eog), while some other GNOME 2 applications don't (balsa, yelp, file-roller, ...). I noticed also that those toolbars which the large padding also have the bug that there is no minimum width (which you told me to be a bonoboui bug) so maybe it's partly bonoboui-specific. Most noticable is the large vertical padding between icon and text in "text below icons" mode.
Well, it looks like you guys meant to update the summary and probably just got busy. I'll do that now...
is that still an issue with the current versions ?
Thanks for the bug report. This particular bug has already been reported into our bug tracking system, but please feel free to report any further bugs you find.
ups, wrong comment. No reply to the bug, closing. Feel free to reopen if you still have the issue