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Bug 75103 - Add to panel menu -> "launcher from menu" should just be "applications"
Add to panel menu -> "launcher from menu" should just be "applications"
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: gnome-panel
Classification: Other
Component: panel
1.5.x
Other All
: High normal
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Assigned To: Panel Maintainers
Panel Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2002-03-17 14:03 UTC by Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail]
Modified: 2015-03-24 13:00 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
the patch (2.18 KB, patch)
2003-02-18 00:39 UTC, Frank Worsley
needs-work Details | Review
screenshot of new layout (55.27 KB, image/png)
2003-02-18 00:40 UTC, Frank Worsley
  Details

Description Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2002-03-17 14:03:51 UTC
In the add to panel menu, there is a sub menu "launcher from menu" this
should probably just be retitled applications, since this is a more concise
and clear term for end users.
Comment 1 Luis Villa 2002-03-18 23:34:38 UTC
Hrm. Agreed that 'launcher from menu' is unclear but not sure that
'applications' is /that/ much better. There must be a better solution,
I think, but I can't think of one. :/
Comment 2 Seth Nickell 2002-03-19 22:55:38 UTC
"launcher from menu" seems really dense.

What about:

  "New Application Launcher..."
and
  "Application Launcher"->
Comment 3 Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2002-03-20 01:40:57 UTC
only problem with "new application launcher..." is that technically
these don't have to be applications. But that may be a detail we can
ignore.
Comment 4 Mark McLoughlin 2002-03-20 10:57:44 UTC
Seth I don't think 'New Application Launcher' makes sense since
nothing has else has 'New' inf front of it ...

I'm certainly for changing 'Launcher from menu' to something else
though
Comment 5 Seth Nickell 2002-03-21 12:38:28 UTC
Nothing else is creating a new thing. Well, not in the same sense.
This is creating and then adding to the panel an application launcher
that never existed before, as distinguished from adding an existing
launcher to the panel. Still, I agree, the name is suboptimal. Still
waiting for Nils to actually comment on these bug reports.

I bet he has bugzilla mail filtered to the trash ;-)
Comment 6 Nils Pedersen 2002-03-21 17:44:39 UTC
(I'm trying to think how we deal with the Launchers... )

Add to panel menu -> Applications -> Other Application...
                                     Acessories
                                     ...

Would something like that work?
Comment 7 John Fleck 2002-03-23 04:09:20 UTC
This won't require any docs changes. We don't get down to the level of
"launcher from menu".
Comment 8 Seth Nickell 2002-03-25 23:00:01 UTC
I like that.
Comment 9 Kevin Vandersloot 2002-04-03 14:16:22 UTC
Guys, what about putting the option to choose a launcher from the menu
within the launcher editing dialog so there is only one menu item
relating to launchers in the add menu? So the launcher dialog would
have a browse type button next to the command or something like that.
Comment 10 Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2002-05-09 07:02:56 UTC
1. I like kevin's idea, would be nice but obviously is post gnome2.
2. I think we should use the term shortcut instead of launcher, this
is the term windows uses for equivalent .desktop files.

also see bug 81210
Comment 11 Frank Worsley 2003-02-18 00:38:44 UTC
I would like to commit the attached patch to re-arrange the menu and
fix this problem. Comments? Ok to commit?
Comment 12 Frank Worsley 2003-02-18 00:39:34 UTC
Created attachment 14398 [details] [review]
the patch
Comment 13 Frank Worsley 2003-02-18 00:40:10 UTC
Created attachment 14399 [details]
screenshot of new layout
Comment 14 Frank Worsley 2003-04-18 23:37:54 UTC
Anymore comments on this? I just added the PATCH keyword.
Comment 15 Kjartan Maraas 2003-04-22 15:44:01 UTC
Adding some more keywords and upping pri.
Comment 16 Mark McLoughlin 2003-05-19 13:00:58 UTC
The patch itself is fine - I was just hoping for someone input on the
patch from the usability guys.

Personally, I'm not mad about the layout Frank proposed. "Other
Application" seems a bit strange - other than what ? Also, the
location of Application/Other Application... seems to arbitrarily
split the sub-menus from Menu Bar/Main Menu/Drawer ...
Comment 17 Mark McLoughlin 2003-05-19 13:01:28 UTC
(Removed the PATCH keyword)
Comment 18 Seth Nickell 2003-05-20 11:18:21 UTC
"Other Application..." doesn't seem great, but seems tolerable.

I'm more concerned about the continued separation between "internal
applets" and "external applets" ... namely I don't see a user sensible
reason why "Main Menu", "Menu Bar", and "Drawer" are not included in
this menu system. They are actually easier to miss this way if you're
used to finding applets in the sub-menus.
Comment 19 Mark McLoughlin 2003-05-20 11:40:47 UTC
there is no reason - we now merge the lock/logout buttons into menus
for example. We just haven't categorised the others ... suggestions ?
The "Utility" menu is getting a bit overweight, just because "Utility"
is such a generic category ...
Comment 20 Seth Nickell 2003-05-21 04:07:14 UTC
Yeah, Utility is getting a little heavy. We might try to form a
category of desktop-related elements, though I'm not sure quite what
to call it.

Another possibility would be to place really common items (perhaps
those on the panel by default?) in no sub-category. So you'd have,
clock, window list, menu bar, and status dock right below the
sub-menus (w/o a separator though, which really distances the items).

The distinction between Menu Bar and Main Menu is rather confusing
right now....but that's a separate issue I guess :-)
Comment 21 Nick Dimiduk 2004-04-29 15:34:53 UTC
Comment on attachment 14398 [details] [review]
the patch

See Comment #16
Comment 22 Christian Neumair 2004-06-26 18:54:04 UTC
We don't have this problem anymore. gnome-panel HEAD features a slick "Add to
Panel" dialog.

regs,
 Chris