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Bug 657012 - [info] Default Applications settings are hard to find
[info] Default Applications settings are hard to find
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: Other Preferences
3.0.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
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Assigned To: Control-Center Maintainers
Control-Center Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks: 686834
 
 
Reported: 2011-08-21 13:39 UTC by Allan Day
Modified: 2021-06-09 16:07 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Allan Day 2011-08-21 13:39:23 UTC
These settings are currently located under the System Information panel. We've had a number of reports that they are difficult (if not impossible) to find.
Comment 1 Bastien Nocera 2011-08-21 17:13:26 UTC
Known, please provide alternative.
Comment 2 Hylke Bons 2011-08-21 17:23:38 UTC
It's own panel would be one solution, merging with Removable Media another.
Comment 3 Bastien Nocera 2011-09-19 17:13:56 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> It's own panel would be one solution, merging with Removable Media another.

The removable media configuration is now in the info panel (see bug 657859). Is that good enough?
Comment 4 Hylke Bons 2011-09-19 17:55:09 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> The removable media configuration is now in the info panel (see bug 657859). Is
> that good enough?

It doesn't address the issue. It just makes Removable Media harder to find too...
How you want files and media handled are personal preferences, so it should be a panel under Personal. Right now System Info seems to become a dumping ground for stuff, which we need to avoid. It should only do what is says: display useful information about the system.

I've started some work to merge the Removable Media and Default Applications panel:
https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/blob/master/system-settings/media-and-applications/media-and-applications.png
Comment 5 Bastien Nocera 2011-09-19 18:18:45 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> > The removable media configuration is now in the info panel (see bug 657859). Is
> > that good enough?
> 
> It doesn't address the issue. It just makes Removable Media harder to find
> too...
> How you want files and media handled are personal preferences, so it should be
> a panel under Personal. Right now System Info seems to become a dumping ground
> for stuff, which we need to avoid. It should only do what is says: display
> useful information about the system.
> 
> I've started some work to merge the Removable Media and Default Applications
> panel:
> https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/blob/master/system-settings/media-and-applications/media-and-applications.png

That goes against what was discussed in bug 657859 though.
Comment 6 Hylke Bons 2011-09-19 18:46:34 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > (In reply to comment #3)
> > > The removable media configuration is now in the info panel (see bug 657859). Is
> > > that good enough?
> > 
> > It doesn't address the issue. It just makes Removable Media harder to find
> > too...
> > How you want files and media handled are personal preferences, so it should be
> > a panel under Personal. Right now System Info seems to become a dumping ground
> > for stuff, which we need to avoid. It should only do what is says: display
> > useful information about the system.
> > 
> > I've started some work to merge the Removable Media and Default Applications
> > panel:
> > https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/blob/master/system-settings/media-and-applications/media-and-applications.png
> 
> That goes against what was discussed in bug 657859 though.

It does.
Comment 7 Jonathan 2011-12-16 18:57:47 UTC
It is a personal preference and thus should be under "personal". Just my humble opinion. That is where I would start looking.
Comment 8 André Klapper 2012-01-23 10:51:51 UTC
Don't see a reason for NEEDINFO here => removing.
Comment 9 Felipe Erias Morandeira 2012-02-22 11:15:32 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> 
> That goes against what was discussed in bug 657859 though.

There's not much discussion there, to be honest :-)

Hylke's suggestion of having one (or two) entries under Personal makes sense.

In any case, System Info should honor its name and just provide information about the system (wouldn't hurt to change "info" with "information", btw).
Comment 10 Josh Triplett 2012-03-05 15:32:25 UTC
I ran into the same problem here.  I wanted to change the web browser that GNOME opened, since it didn't respect $BROWSER or any of the other places I've set the default web browser, and didn't migrate the setting from GNOME 2 either.  I ended up systematically checking every control center applet to look for the settings I expected, and finally found them under System Info.

I'd suggest moving this to a separate top-level applet.  In the future, it might also make sense to make the preferences for programs used to open various file types into that applet as well.
Comment 11 Anton Eliasson 2012-03-08 15:15:42 UTC
Downstream bug in Debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=648945
Comment 12 Teppo Turtiainen 2012-03-31 18:12:32 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> merging with Removable Media

+1 for this. Merge with Removable Media, rename to Applications and Media and have separate tabs for both (like Typing and Shortcuts in Keyboard settings).

Also, I don't know what can appear in System Info, but I currently only have Overview, Default Applications and Graphics. If we merged Removable Media and Default Applications, we could also merge Overview and Graphics, get rid of the sidebar and have a much prettier System Info.
Comment 13 Teppo Turtiainen 2012-03-31 18:27:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #12)
> we could also merge Overview and Graphics

Actually, we should do this regardless of merging Removable Media and Default Applications. The Forced Fallback Mode slider belongs in GNOME Tweak Tool, the Experience info is utterly meaningless and the Driver info is already identical with the Graphics info in Overview.
Comment 14 Jonathan 2012-03-31 18:54:56 UTC
One of the things I consider problematic is that it is named "System INFO". That makes me expect to find info. If it had been named "System" or "System Settings", I would look for settings there.
Comment 15 Martin Erik Werner 2012-04-12 11:40:39 UTC
There are issues with all given alternatives, I think:

1. Keeping it in the System Info panel
   - Inconsistent, "Info" usually means "read-only"
   - Hard to find, and not possible to search for via the quick launcher

2. Keeping as separate top level panels (both media and default apps)
   - Clutters the System Settings
   - Separation between media and default apps

3. Merge into one top level panel item "Media and Applications"
   - Clutters the System Settings (less than alt. 2)
   
4. Rename System Info
   - Naming it correctly would be hard, since it was correct before the move
     "System Settings" would be duplication of the parent name
     "System" might be too generic, and again "System Settings"->"System" makes little sense


I think personally that option 3 is the best solution as presented, excluding that, I still think 2 is a better option than 1, for the sake of avoiding confusion.
Comment 16 Josh Triplett 2012-04-12 12:19:54 UTC
I'd suggest 2, but 3 still seems better than the alternatives.
Comment 17 Bastien Nocera 2013-01-26 00:54:31 UTC
Allan, this is waiting on ui-review.
Comment 18 Matthias Clasen 2013-02-13 16:05:38 UTC
 not really a blocker
Comment 19 André Klapper 2021-06-09 16:07:33 UTC
GNOME is going to shut down bugzilla.gnome.org in favor of gitlab.gnome.org.
As part of that, we are mass-closing older open tickets in bugzilla.gnome.org
which have not seen updates for a longer time (resources are unfortunately
quite limited so not every ticket can get handled).

If you can still reproduce the situation described in this ticket in a recent
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