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Bug 43472 - "Show hidden files" preference isn't easily accessible
"Show hidden files" preference isn't easily accessible
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: nautilus
Classification: Core
Component: Views: All
2.5.x
Other All
: High enhancement
: future
Assigned To: Nautilus Maintainers
Nautilus Maintainers
DRIZZT[important]
: 84798 87008 100071 105641 114445 119430 129596 134911 139907 143239 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2000-10-04 19:09 UTC by victor
Modified: 2004-12-22 21:47 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: Unversioned Enhancement


Attachments
Patch to add "Show hidden files" and "Show backup files" to the view menu (13.76 KB, patch)
2003-06-08 16:47 UTC, Mark Finlay
needs-work Details | Review
Allows toggling display of hidden files (7.01 KB, patch)
2004-05-28 15:10 UTC, Jamie McCracken
none Details | Review
Behaves more appropriately in spatial and browser modes (33.65 KB, patch)
2004-06-20 11:13 UTC, Jamie McCracken
none Details | Review

Description victor 2001-09-10 00:41:03 UTC
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Nautilus Feedback - Text View
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Date        Time      Type              Source         Category            
Subject
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09:14:2000  08:36:07  Feature Request   PR1-Binary     Customization        View
- Hidden Files
IP: 209.233.25.170   Email: bart@eazel.com

I know there's a Show Hidden files preference but there should also be a View -
Hidden files setting that just applies  to the directory you're viewing: most of
the time I don't want to see them, but sometime I quickly need to switch and see
them in the directory I'm viewing.



------- Additional Comments From darin@bentspoon.com 2000-10-09 10:07:06 ----

I agree that this is a potentially-useful feature. I immediately mark most new features 
"deferred" but I guess Bud and co. can consider this one.



------- Additional Comments From eli@eazel.com 2000-10-16 20:14:09 ----

Batch-assigning QA ownership of remaining bugs to eli@eazel.com



------- Additional Comments From bart@eazel.com 2000-11-08 15:30:09 ----

I would *love* that feature!  The hidden files are always driving me nuts, but
then sometimes I'm looking for them.



------- Additional Comments From eli@eazel.com 2001-02-21 11:16:21 ----

QA Assigning to brett. Sorry for the spam.



------- Additional Comments From sullivan@eazel.com 2001-03-09 17:36:06 ----

The UI for this is easy. The hard part is changing the architecture. Currently
the fact that certain files are hidden (not counted, not displayed) is done at a
pretty low level and we aren't set up to change it on a folder-by-folder basis.



------- Additional Comments From bart@eazel.com 2001-03-09 17:39:28 ----

Oh, do you think we'd need it on a folder by folder basis?  I was thinking it'd
be a universal setting, but by putting it on a menu, you're bringing it within
reach where I can turn it on/off when I want to.



------- Additional Comments From eli@eazel.com 2001-03-26 11:12:58 ----

QA Assigning to self.



------- Additional Comments From braden@endoframe.com 2001-06-21 14:29:07 ----

FWIW, I'd like to see this as a stateful toolbar button (perhaps only available
in Advanced mode). And I agree that it would be reasonable to make it global,
rather than per-directory. Actually I think I'd prefer it that way.




------- Bug moved to this database by unknown@bugzilla.gnome.org 2001-09-09 20:41 -------

The original reporter (victor@eazel.com) of this bug does not have an account here.
Reassigning to the exporter, unknown@bugzilla.gnome.org.

Comment 1 John Fleck 2002-01-05 04:19:44 UTC
Changing to "old" target milestone for all bugs laying around with no milestone set.
Comment 2 John Fleck 2002-01-26 04:15:23 UTC
Adding GNOME2 keyword.
Comment 3 Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2002-06-11 04:27:16 UTC
*** Bug 84798 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2002-07-17 15:36:16 UTC
*** Bug 87008 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 nathan 2002-08-19 14:10:14 UTC
If nautilus didn't ignore the 'show hidden files' gconf key, a script
could easily set/unset this, which IMHO would be very nice.
Comment 6 Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2003-01-04 08:29:41 UTC
*** Bug 100071 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2003-02-14 03:48:08 UTC
*** Bug 105641 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Mark Finlay 2003-06-08 16:47:29 UTC
Created attachment 17319 [details] [review]
Patch to add "Show hidden files" and "Show backup files" to the view menu
Comment 9 Mark Finlay 2003-06-08 16:49:58 UTC
I didn't write that patch and I don't remember exactly where
I got it from but it works for me. This it was from the
nautilus list. 

It does per-directory showing/hiding.
Comment 10 August Mayer 2003-08-08 12:28:02 UTC
*** Bug 119430 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Mark Finlay 2003-09-01 20:44:13 UTC
setting GNOMEVER2.5
Comment 12 Thomas Frayne 2003-09-18 17:06:07 UTC
Some have suggested putting this in the View menu, which would require
two clicks to toggle it.  I much prefer a toggle button on the
toolbar.  If it is that easy to toggle, there is no need to make it
operate on a folder by folder basis.
Comment 13 mwehner 2003-09-27 04:27:09 UTC
*** Bug 114445 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Johannes Rohr 2003-12-18 10:27:03 UTC
*** Bug 129596 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15 Mantas Kriaučiūnas 2004-01-16 12:10:51 UTC
Are there any plans to realize this feature ?

Btw, now users can't see backup files in comfortable way in nautilus,
because there are only option to see hidden and backup files, but this
is not user-friendly, because only few users like to see hidden files.

It would be nice if developers add ability to see backup files without
hidden files.
Comment 16 Matthew Gatto 2004-02-20 00:01:42 UTC
*** Bug 134911 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 17 Matthew Gatto 2004-02-20 00:04:25 UTC
Mantas: you can see backup files without hidden files, see the
gconf-editor key /desktop/gnome/file_views/show_backup_files. As to
you first question about whether this is planned on being realized, I
think the "Target Milestone: future" and the amount of discussion on
this bug answer that question (yes).
Comment 18 Martin Wehner 2004-04-13 22:01:02 UTC
*** Bug 139907 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 19 Dave Camp 2004-04-26 20:13:40 UTC
Comment on attachment 17319 [details] [review]
Patch to add "Show hidden files" and "Show backup files" to the view menu

For 2.8 we want to make these options per-window rather than global.

However, if you want to rework the patch to just include the instant-apply
stuff, that would be great to apply to 2.6.

Thanks!
Comment 20 Michael Favia 2004-05-05 22:36:10 UTC
I think that it should be accessible from the interface without going into the
preferences as well. However i dont think that is should be some sort of drop
down. Instead i suggest putting an entry on the "View" menu that simply
shows/doesnt show hidden files... also a hotkey would be nice if one doesnt
already exist.
Comment 21 Christian Neumair 2004-05-07 12:36:21 UTC
Indeed, keeping this as a folder-specific attribute makes sense from a spatial
point of view. But we need to have a reasonable default somewhere and decide
what we do with the treeview and the non-spatial mode.

regs,
 Chris
Comment 22 Michael Favia 2004-05-07 15:03:48 UTC
I am growig accustomed to the spatial view metaphor and i appreciate the
responsiveness of the trimmed down nautilus. However i am begining to get
concerned about the atomic level of all of these changes we can make to the
interface. All around bugzilla i am hearing the rally cry of "folder-specific".
While i agree with the metaphor completely i do feel that we should offer some
advantage to the user for working in a virtual environment. 

Sure if this was a "real world" spatial environment you would have to change
each of these windows individually just as you have to organize your belongings
one by one. But most organizers would also appreciate the ability to make
sweeping changes as well. 

While i think that we should continue pushing the spatial metaphor as far as it
reasonably applies i also thik that we should develop some simple utilities to
rectify any widespread errors or mistakes that users make while "personalizing"
their file system. A couple of options i can think of:

1. Set subfolders to current settings (background, view type, etc..)

2. Creation of simplified styles that aggregate the options of a folder and can
be easily and quickly applied and universally changed.

3. applicability to the list view (currently has no effect and i like the list
view) however i realize it is built on a different architecture and may take
some considerable work to retrofit.

I can think of other ways to simplify the interface and improve the use and
usability of the spatial metaphor in nautilus (#140490, #139831 and others) but
i think i may be ranting right now... maybe ill collect my thoughts and publish
something lucid in the next couple of days. My main goal is to make the nautilus
spatial metaphor work elegantly for the poweruser and the normal user in a
unified way. In fact a good metaphor for my approach to the nautilus system is
that ability but not the requirement to use stylesheets on the web and in
OpenOffice. Intelligent and efficient use can be made of them if you know what
you are doing (change all header text to bold) and simple but effective changes
can be made if you have no idea how to work anything (bold a word).

I think that the implementation should be subtle and transparent to say the
least. Please let me know what you think. And ill try to pu ttogether a licid
argument.
Comment 23 Matthew Gatto 2004-05-27 01:23:58 UTC
*** Bug 143239 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 24 Jamie McCracken 2004-05-28 15:10:51 UTC
Created attachment 28123 [details] [review]
Allows toggling display of hidden files

I have improved my previous patch to include saving the toggle state when
changed for each folder (spatial metaphor compatible!). Folders in browser or
spatial mode will now remember their previous toggled state.

Global Pref for show hidden files is now made a default setting and only
affects folders that have not been previously toggled (IE it wont override
saved toggled state).
Comment 25 Jamie McCracken 2004-06-20 11:13:25 UTC
Created attachment 28877 [details] [review]
Behaves more appropriately in spatial and browser modes

Updated patch such that browser mode no longer remembers previous state and
always reverts to the default setting when changing folders. No state metadata
is saved.

Spatial mode remembers and saves state for each folder. If a folder has no
saved state it uses the default global setting. A change in the global
preferences show hidden files state only affects folders that have no
previously changed or saved state.
Comment 26 Alexander Larsson 2004-06-21 18:48:43 UTC
fixed in cvs.