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I assume there's no specific HighContrast version either? (I know the icon is black and white anyway, but it's too detailed for the HighContrast style.)

Luca, any chance you'd like to work on an SVG high contrast version of the Orca icon, and deliver us a PNG version at the same time? :)

(In reply to comment #2)
> I assume there's no specific HighContrast version either? (I know the icon is
> black and white anyway, but it's too detailed for the HighContrast style.)

Moreover the icon represents a "real" orca, so it's not good for HIG.

> Luca, any chance you'd like to work on an SVG high contrast version of the Orca
> icon, and deliver us a PNG version at the same time? :)
> 

There is an icon available in HighContrast and HighContrastInverse, named "gnome-settings-accessibility-tecnologies". This icon should be used inside the AT capplet. The "plain" version is in gnome-themes/capplets/accessibility/at-properties/at-startup.png

Here[1] is the HighContrast version. As you can see there are some issues:

  * rectagle in the bottom right cornes should be a virtual keyboard (GOK)
    Orca icon needs only magnifier, speech emblem and braille emblem

  * borders and strokes are 2 pixels, not 4 as per HIG - not sure, but place
    3 objects using 4 pixels inside a 48x48 canvas could be hard 

I'll try do draw something, starting from HC.

But, a stupid question: could we split the single Orca launcher in 3 launchers? I.e. "Orca Screen Magnifier" "Orca Screen Reader" and "Orca Braille". 


[1] http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/gnome-themes/HighContrastLargePrint/icons/48x48/apps/gnome-settings-accessibility-technologies.png?rev=1.1

Created attachment 75098 [details]
An initial draft for high contrast icon for Orca

What about something like this? We have the magnify, we have braille signs, we have the comic-strip bubble.

The only way to put them all in 48 pixels using 4 pixels borders is IMHO use the bubble as a desktop.

Neat!  I'm guessing the comic strip bubble stands for speech, so we get all the presentation modes covered?  BTW, if it is possible to change the braille character (the current one is the Grade 2 braille contraction for 'ou' I believe), it would be great to make it something with subtle meaning.  For example, 'o' for orca, which is:

* 
  *
*

In any case, I thank you very much for doing this.  I have no artistic ability, so all I can say is that it looks great and we will roll it in to the Orca CVS repository unless anyone objects.

Created attachment 75284 [details]
A package with updated Orca HC icons

 * Use braille sign for 'o' character
 * Switch magnifier and braille sign (just a full vs empy space question after
   previous change)
 * Small alignment issues
 
There are 6 icons in this package. The PNG icons are availabe in -sexy and -plain version: the plain is the version that match HighContrast icon theme rules, the sexy adds a void 'o' in braille characted as placeholder. Of course this 'o' is drawn using a circle with a 0.5 border: this don't match HighContrast icon theme rules ("no stuff thinner then 2.5 pixels"), but it's so coooool :-) It's something like:

  *            * o
    *    vs    o *
  *            * o

 plain         sexy


The other files are: orca.svg (the SVG source for HighContrast) and orca-inverse.svg (the SVG source for HighContrastInverse). Both have the void circles enabled, so you should delete them manually to match HighContrast icon theme rules, if you will add SVG icons and you will discard the sexy version.

Not, I think thak we need also a "simple" version and a LargePrint. I'll try to draw somthing like this, using Tango style for "simple".

But, what about LargePrint? Currently there are neither pallete nor sytle guide. Should I use the old GNOME palette and let black borders? Maybe using 2 pixels for borders too? Calum?

PS the icon used by Rich Burridge in his blog posts about orca[1] is really cool. Could you use it as orca-logo in about dialod?

PPS yes, there is no about dialog, but it should be.

[1] http://blogs.sun.com/richb/resource/orca.jpg

Created attachment 75285 [details]
An initial draft for LargePrint icon theme

1 pixel black border seems goog to me.

Created attachment 75286 [details]
An initial draft for LargePrint icon theme

1 pixel black border seems good to me.

Luca - nice work!  You've been busy.  :-)  I think either the plain or sexy look fine and will defer to others with better taste than myself.  

> PS the icon used by Rich Burridge in his blog posts about orca[1] is really
> cool. Could you use it as orca-logo in about dialod?

The "real" Orca logo is http://live.gnome.org/data/Orca/attachments/orca2-sm.jpg.   I think it's even cooler.

Re Large Print-- the Large Print theme doesn't actually install any icons, it just uses a gtkrc file to enlarge the default icons from the desktop (gnome) or fallback (hicolor) theme where necessary.  So we don't specifically need a Large Print version.  (We do need a low contrast version, but that's also just derived from the hicolor version, by tweaking the levels in GIMP.)

The High Contrast icons are cool, though... I think I actually prefer the look of the non-sexy ones, and they are more guideline-compliant anyway, so I think we should go with those.  Feel free to commit them if I don't get there first.

> The High Contrast icons are cool, though... I think I actually prefer the look
> of the non-sexy ones, and they are more guideline-compliant anyway, so I think
> we should go with those.  Feel free to commit them if I don't get there first.

I like 'em all.  The one thing I don't know how to do, however, is the magic that needs to be added to configure.in to get these things installed in the right spot.  Anyone know how to do that?

I've just committed the HighContrast and HighContrastInverse PNG versions, and also the SVG version.  I actually swapped around the Inverse and regular ones, though, so that the Inverse one is predominantly-black, and the regular one predominantly white, which seemed to fit better with the rest of the icons in those themes.

I also committed a Low Contrast version of the current hicolor icon.

I think that closes out this bug for now, or are we still missing anything?

(In reply to comment #12)
> I've just committed the HighContrast and HighContrastInverse PNG versions, and
> also the SVG version.

About HighContrast-SVG: I think I'll move the orca.svg icon from scalable/apps directory to scalable/apps-extra directory. I like to keep only icons from Icon Naming Spec in "plain" directories, adding <dirname>-extra directories for icons not in spec needed by GNOME Desktop applications.

Of course this will be only a source-side separation, 'cause I think that is better install icons from scalable/app-extra in $prefix/share/icons/HighContrast-SVG/scalable/apps

>  I actually swapped around the Inverse and regular ones,
> though, so that the Inverse one is predominantly-black, and the regular one
> predominantly white, which seemed to fit better with the rest of the icons in
> those themes.

This is true, but HighContrast icons should have a white border and HC-Inverse black. Your commit breaks this rule :-(

> I think that closes out this bug for now, or are we still missing anything?

Just the 'hicolor' icon in Tango style with the same metaphor of HC icons and at multiple sizes (16, 22, 32, svg-48).

I'm working on it, but this is stuff for another bug report that I will open when the icons will be ready.

Hi All: I'm just checking in on the status of this.  Is there something us Orca folks need to do here?

Ping?

No, the Orca icon should be correctly-themed with all the a11y themes now; that's the case for me in 2.17.92 anyway.  Closing the bug accordingly; if anyone's seeing different please re-open.

(Luca correctly pointed out that I shouldn't really have swapped the High Contrast and Inverse versions before I committed them, but that's a separate issue-- I'll either open another bug about that, or just fix it before the final 2.18 release...)