GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 336152
'Minimum font size' setting can be confusing
Last modified: 2011-02-01 16:18:36 UTC
Forwarded from: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/36808 On Dapper, the minimum font size is settable in both the simple fonts panel and the detailed font view. They both seem to edit the font size, except if either is changed to a value below the other, that change does not take effect. Increasing either or decreasing either but keeping it above the other setting's value works. The obvious fix is to remove one setting, or at least make the settings mirror each other. Having two settings for one thing is extremely confusing to me, though, even if they are mirrored. (bug 328499 would remedy that).
I can reproduce this. Actually it's even worse, I can't seem to get any of the 2 fields to change the other, they just seem to be independant.
They are independent. The one in the main dialogue is the default setting, which you can override per-language-group in the Detailed dialogue.
Hi, I'm the original submitter on Launchpad. Thanks, chpe, for explaining the settings to me. However, I still think this is a bug (or perhaps I should submit a new bug?) because it is not obvious at all that this is what the two settings do.
I agree that it is non-obvious. Anyone have suggestions for a better interface?
*** Bug 448896 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Still valid.
Being that it's so non-obvious currently, I doubt anyone is using this as intended. Why not just drop this, and only have options to set default fonts. If you really don't want to do this, then change the first label to "Default mimimum font size". Then in the Detailed settings dialog, remove the seperator under the "For language" drop down box (it actually gives the impression that the language chosen is "seperate" from the options underneath it, while it's the opposite), and change the label to: "Font settings for language:". Indent the settings underneath it, so it's more clear that they are "subitems" of the language chosen.
I agree for the removal of the separator and for indentation of the underneath settings and the change of labels (maybe we can also use a bold label for the language selector), but I'm not convinced that this would be sufficient to make the dialog obvious, as Firefox's is like this, but if i did not read chpe's comment here, I would not have understood the logic behind it either. I think that having the font set per-language is useless. A typical user just want to set the fonts and their size with a nice and understandable dialog and does not want to know the language logic behind it.
This is still valid in Epiphany 2.26.3. It's not obvious that the one in the Detailed Font-thing is for the language - specially not with the separator. Separators is by the way very ugly in any UI design.
2.29.x exhibits this problem. Further, the "Minimum Font Size" doesn't actually seem to be a minimum. For example, on my display, the usual font size of 10 is just readable, but epiphany with a minimum font size of 18 still is almost impossible to read. (Indeed, the mininum font size doesn't seem to apply...) Whan does the "Minimum font size" mean exactly?
(In reply to comment #10) > 2.29.x exhibits this problem. Could you provide a test URL? It might be just a bug in the webkit backend.
Facebook and slashdot both have relatively small fonts, even if the 'minimum font size' is set to something huge like 30pt. Epiphany's at version 2.30.2, webkit at 1.2.0
Fixed in master