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Bug 309393 - Dual should place even pages at left, and odd pages at right
Dual should place even pages at left, and odd pages at right
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: evince
Classification: Core
Component: general
0.3.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: Evince Maintainers
Evince Maintainers
: 320143 334910 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2005-07-03 16:56 UTC by gbz
Modified: 2006-03-17 18:20 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.9/2.10



Description gbz 2005-07-03 16:56:23 UTC
The Dual-mode shows odd pages to the left, and even pages to the right. To
resemble a real spread, it should instead place even pages to the left, and odd
pages to the right. That would imply that the first page would always be a loner
at the top right, which is fine with me though.
Comment 1 Marco Pesenti Gritti 2005-07-11 09:37:38 UTC
Jhonatan what do you think?
Comment 2 Bryan W Clark 2005-07-21 15:51:28 UTC
From JRB: PDFs can give a hint as to wether the first page is on the left or
right.  we get that from poppler, but don't use it. 

From Me: I think we could leave this bug open to track enabling this support,
however trying to do this sans PDF hints seems like a bad idea to me.
Comment 3 Martin Kretzschmar 2005-07-22 08:35:33 UTC
But without the hints, I think we should place odd (recto, to gratuitously add
some jargon) pages to the right. It's the convention normal books use, so why
should we default to the opposite?

(I was reminded of this bug in my blog reading today: 

http://blogs.pragprog.com/cgi-bin/pragdave.cgi/Tech/Random/NewPreview.rdoc
)
Comment 4 Vaclav Smilauer 2005-08-09 18:10:24 UTC
BTW acroread (the 7.0 version) does this also and it is VERY convenient
(previewing duplex LaTeX documents). I don't know if it uses some hints from PDF
files; seems unlikely as regular pdftex/ps2pdf PDFs are displayed that way, too.
Comment 5 Romain Tartière 2005-10-29 02:58:15 UTC
*** Bug 320143 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 Mikel Ward 2005-10-29 04:06:03 UTC
How does the printing industry do page numbering?  Is the cover or title page
traditionally numbered 1 rather than 0?

For the documents I'm currently viewing a lot of which don't have a cover page,
the current behavior is good.  If I'm in dual-page view, I can see the first two
body pages as soon as I open the document.
Comment 7 Sebastien Bacher 2005-11-10 11:31:38 UTC
Ubuntu has a bug about this:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/3232
Comment 8 Richard Lamont 2005-12-30 00:42:25 UTC
I used to work as a commercial magazine editor. The standard in publishing is that RH pages are odd. You can easily confirm this by looking at a selection of your own books and magazines. Typically, he front cover of a magazine or book is page 1, and pages 2 and 3 are the L and R pages of the first 'double page spread' (DPS).

I have seen several PDFs which have been designed as DPS's and the dual mode currently gets it wrong: it shows an RH page of one DPS on the left and the LH page of the next DPS on the right. I agree that this is a bug and the default behaviour should be to display odd pages on the right.
Comment 9 Wouter Bolsterlee (uws) 2006-01-04 22:36:01 UTC
The default should be changed to show even pages at the left and odd pages to the right. The hints the PDF document gives can later be used to change the default. I agree with all the other commenters :)
Comment 10 Nickolay V. Shmyrev 2006-01-07 13:19:02 UTC
Should be fixed in recent CVS.
Comment 11 Sergej Kotliar 2006-03-17 18:20:34 UTC
*** Bug 334910 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***