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Bug 164831 - Allow a list of alternative keybindings to be specified for each action
Allow a list of alternative keybindings to be specified for each action
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: metacity
Classification: Other
Component: general
trunk
Other All
: High enhancement
: ---
Assigned To: Thomas Thurman
Metacity maintainers list
AP4
: 91538 108689 157824 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2005-01-21 16:11 UTC by Calum Benson
Modified: 2006-11-05 01:59 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.13/2.14


Attachments
Screenshot of keyboard shortcut dialog. (20.80 KB, image/png)
2005-01-28 15:28 UTC, Vinay M R
  Details
Latest screenshot (39.99 KB, image/png)
2005-06-17 14:44 UTC, Vinay M R
  Details
Patch fixes the control-center part of the bug. (20.82 KB, patch)
2005-06-17 14:46 UTC, Vinay M R
none Details | Review
Patch fixes the metacity part of the bug. (38.19 KB, patch)
2005-06-17 14:50 UTC, Vinay M R
none Details | Review
Created the metacity patch against latest source (38.54 KB, patch)
2005-08-10 10:30 UTC, Vinay M R
needs-work Details | Review
Control-center patch which takes care of comment#16 (20.77 KB, patch)
2005-08-10 10:33 UTC, Vinay M R
none Details | Review
Control-center Patch (21.19 KB, patch)
2005-08-26 04:44 UTC, Vinay M R
needs-work Details | Review
Allow any keybinding to be set both from "foo", a string, and "foo_list", a list (27.90 KB, patch)
2006-04-01 19:24 UTC, Thomas Thurman
needs-work Details | Review
62560: Allow any keybinding to be set both from "foo", a string, and "foo_list", a list: Version 2 (28.54 KB, patch)
2006-04-15 02:34 UTC, Thomas Thurman
committed Details | Review

Description Calum Benson 2005-01-21 16:11:28 UTC
Currently, Main Menu, Run Application and Show Desktop are bound to Alt-F1,
Alt-F2 and Ctrl-Alt-D by default. If we feel it's worth trying to help people
migrating from Windows where possible, it might be worth considering binding
these to Ctrl-Esc, <Super>R and <Super>D by default instead, as some distros
(e.g. JDS) already do.  (Expect Vinay to attach our patch for this shortly.)
Comment 1 Havoc Pennington 2005-01-21 18:55:22 UTC
My take is that we should add support for two keys and bind to both the windows
and our defaults. Tons of people will complain if we break our current bindings.
(In fact I think some of the current bindings may work on windows too?)
There are also keyboards without the Windows key, e.g. IBM Thinkpads are a
modern shipping system without one.
Comment 2 Vinay M R 2005-01-24 13:12:50 UTC
Havoc: Currently, the keys (apps/metacity/global_keybindings/panel_main_menu
etc) are of the GConf type String and one action is bound to a single key.
If we have to add support for two keys, then the GConf type of the keys should
be changed to List and they should be handled accordingly in the
gnome-keybindings capplet. Before going ahead with a fix wanted to confirm if
this is the right approach. kindly let know
Comment 3 Havoc Pennington 2005-01-24 21:24:25 UTC
I'm not sure of the right approach. You can't just change the keys to a list
because it will break old versions of GNOME using the same home directory.
See forward/back compat guidelines on http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/

We could do various things, such as introduce keyname_1, keyname_2, keyname_3 
as extra keybindings; or have a global_keybindings_1/keyname,
global_keybindings_2/keyname type of setup. Or we could add keyname_list 
to go with each keyname.

Adding support for this to the control panel is probably quite hard and could
have negative UI impacts, so we could say that extra bindings are not editable
via the UI. That has problems too though if going into the keybindings 
dialog to disable a specific binding and then you don't find it there.

It's just sort of hard. That's why I haven't done it ;-) I think it will take 
a fair bit of work.

If you come up with a proposed approach maybe post it before you do too much of 
the work so we can discuss.
Comment 4 Vinay M R 2005-01-28 15:28:38 UTC
Created attachment 36649 [details]
Screenshot of keyboard shortcut dialog.

Havoc, Calum,

We could probably do the following:
-> Introduce new gconf keys (as you have suggested)
   /apps/metacity/extra_keybings/keyname_1
   /apps/metacity/extra_keybings/keyname_2
   /apps/metacity/extra_keybings/keyname_3
-> In the gnome-keybinding-properties capplet, we could have a new section
   called 'Extra Keybindings'
   This can be editable like the other keys.

Attached is the screenshot for the same. (will move the Extra Keybindings to
the bottom of the list while actually fixing the bug)

Kindly comment.
Comment 5 Havoc Pennington 2005-01-28 16:14:10 UTC
I think it might be a bit nicer if the keybindings dialog had a second column, 
"Secondary Shortcut" or something, so you can see right in the dialog if there 
are two shortcuts for a key? I don't know if it works.
Comment 6 Vinay M R 2005-02-11 13:42:13 UTC
Then in the 'Secondary Shortcut' column, only 3 keybindings ie Main menu, Run
dialog and Show desktop will be editable (currently). In order that the column
is editable for the rest of the keys listed in the capplet, we would have to
provide secondary shortcuts for each of them. Is that what we want ?
Comment 7 Calum Benson 2005-03-04 17:32:40 UTC
I think if we're sure we only want a maximum of two shortcuts per command, then
an extra column would work okay (provided we could think of a short enough name
to go in the header).  If you wanted to be more flexible, or even if you didn't,
you could add an extra level to the treeview (probably collapsed by default):

 v Desktop
     Launch help browser   | F1
     Log out               | Ctrl-Alt-Delete
   v Show panel menu       | <Alt>F2
      Alternative          | <Mod4>Esc
      Alternative          | <Ctrl><Alt>M
     Launch web browser    | Disabled
 v Sound
 
etc.  Would also then need buttons to add/delete keybindings to the
currently-selected command, of course.

(BTW, this is rapidly turning into a dup of #108689).
Comment 8 Vinay M R 2005-03-29 06:23:26 UTC
Havoc, Jody, Calum,

As suggested above, we can add an extra level to the treeview but instead of
having separate keys for each of the alternative keys, have an alternative
keyname list. For instance, the apps/metacity/global_keybindings/panel_main_menu
key will have apps/metacity/global_keybindings/panel_main_menu_subkeylist
containing all the alternative keys.
 
 v Desktop
     Launch help browser   | F1
     Log out               | Ctrl-Alt-Delete
   v Show panel menu       | <Alt>F2
      Alternative          | [<Mod4>Esc,<Ctrl><Alt>M,<Ctrl><Alt>P]
     Launch web browser    | Disabled
 v Sound

please let know if this is okay to go about.
Comment 9 Calum Benson 2005-03-29 12:28:29 UTC
It's not obvious from this design how a user would edit the list of Alternatives
directly from the capplet.  E.g. how would I change <ctrl><alt>M to
<ctrl><alt>P, or delete <mod4>Esc altogether?

The idea of my suggestion in comment #7 was to allow the user to edit
alternative shortcuts in exactly the same way as regular shortcuts.  How they
are actually stored in gconf shouldn't influence the design of the UI.
Comment 10 Vinay M R 2005-03-30 13:43:45 UTC
Calum, I got your point. Will make use of list to store all the alternative but
display it as you mentioned in comment #7

Comment 11 Vinay M R 2005-06-17 14:44:23 UTC
Created attachment 47904 [details]
Latest screenshot
Comment 12 Vinay M R 2005-06-17 14:46:31 UTC
Created attachment 47905 [details] [review]
Patch fixes the control-center part of the bug.
Comment 13 Vinay M R 2005-06-17 14:50:36 UTC
Created attachment 47906 [details] [review]
Patch fixes the metacity part of the bug.

Below are the functions which i have changed in the following patches to take
care of the new alternative keybindings.

In control-center patch.

-Made an entry in desktop_key_list[] for the alternative keys Main Menu, Run
App and Show Desktop.
-Changed append_keys_to_tree() to take care of List while creating
treeview.
-Changed accel_edited_callback() to validate and update the new
shotcuts changed from gnome-keybinding-properties capplet in case of list.
-Changed accel_cleared_callback() to take care when an element of list
has been disabled from gnome-keybinding-properties capplet.

In metacity patch.

a)In prefs.h file
  -Add two members i.e 'keysym_alt' and 'modifiers_alt' of type List to
structure MetaKeyPref to handle the alternative list of shortcuts.
  -Defined the keys for all the three.

b)In prefs.c file
  -Intialise the values for these alternative keys in screen_bindings[]
array.
  -Changed init_bindings() in order to take care of list during initial
binding.
  -Changed change_notify() to take care when an element of list has
been changed either from gnome-keybinding-properties or gconf-editor.
And also added update_list to update the list.

c)In keybindings.c
  -In screen_handlers[], associate an handler with these alternative
keys.
  -Changed rebuild_binding_table() to handle binding of all the list
elements.

d)In metacity.schemas.in
  Added schema section for all the three alternatives.


Attached is the latest screenshot of the treeview changed slighly. As in the
previous screenshot click on the row

v Show the panel run application dialog    | <Alt>F2

should take care of both collapsing and providing the accelerator, which will
confuse the user.
Comment 14 Calum Benson 2005-06-17 15:05:18 UTC
Looks pretty good from the screenshot, except that I'd only expect to see
'alternatives' in the expanded section of the tree.  Right now you seem to have
the main shortcut there as well.

That is, I'd expect to see:
 
   v Show the panel run application dialog    Alt-F2
         Alternative                          <Mod4>r
         Alternative                          Ctrl+Alt+R

rather than

   v Show the panel run application dialog    
         Show the panel run application dialog Alt-F2
         Alternative                           <Mod4>r
         Alternative                           Ctrl+Alt+R


Did we definitely decide to only allow two alternatives per shortcut?  Not that
I can imagine needing any more than that, but it makes the UI clunkier than it
would be if you could just have as many as you needed.

Also, in the screenshot I don't see any way to add an alternative shortcut for
(say) Launch Help Browser... how are you proposing to do that?
Comment 15 Vinay M R 2005-06-20 14:23:38 UTC
Calum,

a) Implementing as below has some issues

v Show the panel run application dialog    Alt-F2
      Alternative                          <Mod4>r
      Alternative                          Ctrl+Alt+R


 -When user clicks on row

   v Show the panel run application dialog    Alt-F2

  -> he/she can either change the shortcut or collapse the treeview.

  -> if both actions are provided then, the first click on that row will allow
     the user to change the shortcut and a second click on that row will
     expand it.

     This would mean that in order to expand that row, the user will have to
     click twice. This might be confusing for the user.

b)

> Did we definitely decide to only allow two alternatives per shortcut?

 Presently one can add/edit/delete as many alternative shortcuts to the Run
application, Main menu and show desktop as required through gconf-editor.


c)
> don't see any way to add an alternative shortcut for
> (say) Launch Help Browser...

- Providing alternative shortcut to each and every key dynamically  would
mean that  Alternate list for each of the keys in the metacity schemas need
  to be added

  And with current changes as in the attached screenshots above capplet may look
like this even if there are no alternative shortcut is assigned initialy.

v Desktop
  v Launch help browser
    Launch help browser                    |F1
    Alternative                            |disabled
  v Log out
    Log out                                |Ctrl-Alt-Delete
    Alternative                            |disabled
  v Show the panel run application dialog
    Show the panel run application dialog  |Alt-F2
    Alternative                            |<Mod4>r
    Alternative                            |<Alt>r
Comment 16 Calum Benson 2005-06-20 14:56:44 UTC
> When user clicks on row
>   v Show the panel run application dialog    Alt-F2
> -> he/she can either change the shortcut or collapse the treeview.
> -> if both actions are provided then, the first click on that row will allow
     the user to change the shortcut and a second click on that row will
     expand it.

I would expect clicking on the expander arrow to expand/collapse that row, and
clicking on any item of text to select that shortcut for editing.  There
shouldn't be any need to overload the click operation.  (Double-clicking doesn't
currently expand an unexpanded row AFAICT, at least not in Ubuntu Hoary, which
is the latest version I have access to right now.)

> Presently one can add/edit/delete as many alternative shortcuts to the Run 
> application, Main menu and show desktop as required through gconf-editor.

I appreciate the technical reason, but special cases give usability people
nightmares :/  I can think of other shortcuts that it would be useful to allow
alternatives for, so I'd like to see this work for any shortcut.  But I guess
the maintainer should have the final decision on whether the extra work is worth it.
Comment 17 Vinay M R 2005-08-10 10:30:49 UTC
Created attachment 50508 [details] [review]
Created the metacity patch against latest source
Comment 18 Vinay M R 2005-08-10 10:33:06 UTC
Created attachment 50509 [details] [review]
Control-center patch which takes care of comment#16
Comment 19 Calum Benson 2005-08-12 10:47:45 UTC
Ok, I've tried the latest patch(es), and I think interaction-wise it works pretty nicely.  

The only problem I found was that if you try to replace an existing shortcut with itself (e.g. try to 
replace Ctrl-Space with Ctrl-Space), you get an irritating alert popping up telling you that the shortcut 
is already in use.  It should really just silently accept the 'change'. I don't know if this behaviour is 
directly related to the patch or not, but it doesn't happen on the older 2.11 build I have here.

My concerns about the extensability of the overall solution (see comment #16) remain, but I'm happy 
enough that the UI itself seems to work well, and that it could easily be extended to allow alternative 
shortcuts for more items in future, if required.  (And on reflection, I think only being able to add one 
alternative shortcut for any given action is plenty, and that there's no need to clutter the UI further with 
Add/Remove Shortcut buttons that I sort of suggested in comment #7.)
Comment 20 Vinay M R 2005-08-26 04:44:50 UTC
Created attachment 51362 [details] [review]
Control-center Patch

This control-center patch fixes the problem of replacing an existing shortcut
with itself as mentioned in comment#19. Metacity patch as not been changed, so
one can use patch attached in comment#17.
Comment 21 Calum Benson 2005-09-29 14:41:52 UTC
I can confirm that things seem to work as expected with this new patch.
Comment 22 Elijah Newren 2005-10-01 20:12:29 UTC
I'd like to test it out quickly too, and then give Havoc a ping.  Which are the
patches that need to be applied? (it looks like there's old ones hanging around
that haven't been marked obsolete)
Comment 23 Vinay M R 2005-10-04 09:20:03 UTC
Elijah,
You can use the patches id 50508(metacity patch) and 51362(control-center patch)
for testing purpose. Since i don't have permission to mark other patches (id's
47905, 47906, 50509) as obsolete, could you please mark it as obsolete ?
Comment 24 Elijah Newren 2005-10-04 15:59:01 UTC
If you can create cool patches like these, you ought to be able to edit bugs. 
So I gave you permissions to do so.  ;-)

But yeah, I'll mark the others as obsolete now and try to get to test the others
soon.
Comment 25 Elijah Newren 2005-10-08 23:59:51 UTC
Tested; works for me too.

Havoc: that's to WFM's (Calum specified that too in comment 21).  Time for you
to take a look.  :)

(I'm going to cc control-center-maint because of the control center patch)
Comment 26 Elijah Newren 2005-10-09 00:01:15 UTC
doh, s/to WFM's/two WFM's/.  I'm obviously no English major.  :)
Comment 27 Vinay M R 2005-10-28 03:48:55 UTC
Havoc and control-center maintainers please review my patch.
Comment 28 Elijah Newren 2005-11-16 06:49:22 UTC
*** Bug 157824 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 29 Havoc Pennington 2005-11-20 00:08:55 UTC
Comment on attachment 50508 [details] [review]
Created the metacity patch against latest source

Thanks for the patch.

Some of my comments here also apply to the control-center patch.

On a high level I think the get_gconfvalue_type stuff is not ideal. Instead,
you should just treat the list keys and the string keys separately, the same
way the difference between int/bool/string is already handled.

Alternatively, genericize the patch such that *any* keybinding "foobar" can
have "foobar_alt" which is always a list. So don't put "foobar_alt" in the
various tables of keybindings separately; instead, for each keybinding, also
concat the _alt and then look up the list. 

With either of these approaches you simply know whether you're expecting a list
of string, and as always you need to check that the GConfValue you get is the
right type, but you don't need to lookup what to expect.

I would name the gconf keys here something like 
_additional or _list rather than _alt (_alt sounds like it might relate to the
alt key)

gconf-client.h should not be put in prefs.h, it should remain confined to
prefs.c.

IS_STRING/IS_LIST should be an enum or bool and not #define, but per my earlier
comment I would just get rid of this.

Why did you move the screen_bindings/window_bindings
arrays?

I would say that keysym_alt/modifiers_alt lists should be merged into a single
list of structs.

In update_list you are leaking the GError from gconf_client_get_list I think.

The return value should not have parentheses in code like:
return (GCONF_VALUE_INVALID)


In rebuild_binding_table(), the identical code for the string and list case
should be factored out instead of cut-and-pasted.
Comment 30 Elijah Newren 2005-11-23 03:01:03 UTC
Control center patches might be better off filed against the control center
product and then the bugs linked.  Anyway, I'm guessing from Havoc's comment
that the control center patch should also be marked as needs work.
Comment 31 Elijah Newren 2006-01-11 23:23:21 UTC
Kicking off the 2.14.x milestone given the small amount of recent activity.
Comment 32 Calum Benson 2006-03-28 13:22:48 UTC
Anyone else interested in picking this up?  The Wipro guys have moved on to other work within Sun for the time being, but we'd still like to see this finished off.
Comment 33 Thomas Thurman 2006-03-28 14:53:13 UTC
I'll take a look at it today and tomorrow and see if I can figure anything out.
Comment 34 Thomas Thurman 2006-03-31 19:21:32 UTC
Still working on this. Maybe it'll be working by Monday.
Comment 35 Thomas Thurman 2006-04-01 19:19:18 UTC
*** Bug 108689 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 36 Thomas Thurman 2006-04-01 19:19:32 UTC
*** Bug 91538 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 37 Thomas Thurman 2006-04-01 19:24:16 UTC
Created attachment 62560 [details] [review]
Allow any keybinding to be set both from "foo", a string, and "foo_list", a list

Here's my first draft of a solution attempting to address the concerns Havoc raised above. Any keybinding gconf can now optionally have a foo_list which sets alternative key combinations.

Currently, when you specify some kinds of bad key combinations (like <Shift>Tab for window cycling), metacity reverts your gconf setting. I've just made it ignore strings within lists which are bad, but maybe we should revert there, too.

Let me know what you think-- I think this is my biggest metacity patch yet, so I'm sure it's open to improvement.
Comment 38 Elijah Newren 2006-04-14 18:47:58 UTC
Comment on attachment 62560 [details] [review]
Allow any keybinding to be set both from "foo", a string, and "foo_list", a list

I wasn't able to find any large problems, and overall I like the organization.  Just a couple smaller issues:

>-  meta_topic (META_DEBUG_PREFS, "Queueing change of pref %s\n",
>+   meta_topic (META_DEBUG_PREFS, "Queueing change of pref %s\n",

The old spacing was right.  ;)

>+      list_val = gconf_client_get_list (default_client, key, GCONF_VALUE_STRING, &err);
>+      cleanup_error (&err);
>+
>+      update_list_binding (&window_bindings[i], list_val, TRUE);
>+
>+      g_slist_free (list_val);

Isn't this a memory leak?  Perhaps I have misunderstood the gconf docs, but don't you have to free the individual strings in the list as well?

>+      list_val = gconf_client_get_list (default_client, key, GCONF_VALUE_STRING, &err);
>+      cleanup_error (&err);
>+
>+      update_list_binding (&screen_bindings[i], list_val, TRUE);
>+
>+      g_slist_free (list_val);

Same here.

>+static gboolean
>+update_list_binding (MetaKeyPref *binding,
>+                     GSList      *value,
>+                     gboolean    list_of_strings)
<snip>
>+      if (list_of_strings)
>+        pref_string = pref_iterator->data;
>+      else
>+        pref_string = gconf_value_get_string (pref_iterator->data); 

Using a gboolean to specify the type of the list in value makes it hard to follow the code elsewhere.  list_of_strings as a name also makes me thing 'well, what is it when it's false?' and forces me to read the function to find out.  I'd prefer if you introduced a new enum with two values -- something like META_LIST_OF_STRINGS and META_LIST_OF_GCONFVALUE_STRINGS.  Then, instead of passing TRUE and FALSE elsewhere in the code it becomes self-documenting by using these enum values.
Comment 39 Thomas Thurman 2006-04-15 02:34:38 UTC
Created attachment 63533 [details] [review]
62560: Allow any keybinding to be set both from "foo", a string, and "foo_list", a list: Version 2

Oh, well spotted. Here's a version which should address those problems. Thanks.
Comment 40 Thomas Thurman 2006-04-17 16:50:52 UTC
Okay, committed. Do we need to patch gnome-control-center before we can close this bug?
Comment 41 Thomas Thurman 2006-04-17 16:54:11 UTC
Oh! I just thought: do we need to set defaults for e.g. panel_main_menu_list and show_desktop_list so the Windows shortcuts work, or shall we leave that to the distros?
Comment 42 Elijah Newren 2006-04-17 17:05:26 UTC
(In reply to comment #40)
> Okay, committed.

I just updated cvs and didn't see the changes.  Are you sure you committed it?

> Do we need to patch gnome-control-center before we can close this bug?

No, let's open a separate bug for that (if one hasn't been opened already).

(In reply to comment #41)
> Oh! I just thought: do we need to set defaults for e.g. panel_main_menu_list
> and show_desktop_list so the Windows shortcuts work, or shall we leave that
> to the distros? 

Let's ping the usability folk (Calum, Bryan, Seth, Matthew) and get an opinion from them on what should be the defaults and do that.  Do we have other bugs open for that already?  If not, we can leave this bug open for that and retitle it.
Comment 43 Thomas Thurman 2006-04-17 17:28:12 UTC
(In reply to comment #42)
> I just updated cvs and didn't see the changes.  Are you sure you committed it?

Errr, no. But I have now. :)

> > Do we need to patch gnome-control-center before we can close this bug?
> 
> No, let's open a separate bug for that (if one hasn't been opened already).

Okay, bug 338805 it is.

> Let's ping the usability folk (Calum, Bryan, Seth, Matthew)

How should I go about doing that-- contacting them on IRC or something?
Comment 44 Calum Benson 2006-04-26 16:39:04 UTC
Apologies for spam-- marking AP4 to reflect accessibility impact.
Comment 45 Calum Benson 2006-04-26 17:14:22 UTC
Apologies for spam... ensuring Sun a11y folks are cc'ed on all current accessibility bugs.
Comment 46 Thomas Thurman 2006-06-29 16:26:30 UTC
Should we be closing this one now?
Comment 47 Elijah Newren 2006-06-29 16:56:34 UTC
Yeah, we probably shouldn't have kept it open after you had added the functionality anyway.  Do you want the honors?
Comment 48 Thomas Thurman 2006-06-29 17:26:42 UTC
Sure! Thank you! :)
Comment 49 Calum Benson 2006-11-02 15:50:59 UTC
I thought all this stuff went back, but in 2.16 I still don't see any UI for adding a secondary shortcut in gnome-keybindings-properties?
Comment 50 Thomas Thurman 2006-11-02 16:09:06 UTC
I did think about adding a UI for it, but 1) I couldn't see an obvious way to do so, 2) that's not really a metacity bug, and 3) it's not really the sort of thing that users want to do anyway. I think users will generally associate one keystroke with one action; this fix is useful in that a distro can set things up so multiple keystrokes provide one action (to accomodate users who expect either), but an individual user probably wouldn't want to for themselves.
Comment 51 Wouter Van Hemel 2006-11-03 00:50:54 UTC
What about users who also have to use different GUIs, like those of KDE, Apple or Windows?

Dual key bindings also help for keyboards that have shortcut keys. I actually have ctrl+insert, ctrl+c and a 'dedicated multimedia button' shortcut for the copy action. 'New tab' or 'New window' is another binding that would be handy to be able to set several shortcuts for, since every environment insists on using their own. It is extremely annoying when simple shortcuts are different than expected, because it's not something you can re-learn in a few minutes. KDE's shortcut configuration dialog is excellent, as are their 'Input Actions'... I feel this is an important area where flexibility is required for many people and that is being overlooked by Gnome. The keyboard is the main peripheral, after all. It's not a luxury to be able to set it up to one's liking.
Comment 52 Elijah Newren 2006-11-04 18:32:14 UTC
Wouter: That's not really relevant here.  None of your examples have anything to do with metacity.  Copy and new tab/window actions are the responsibility of the application; that could be handled by application authors directly or by the toolkit, but either way it's not the job of the WM.  A shortcut key GUI editor would belong in control center, which again isn't part of the WM.  This particular bug report is merely about having metacity allow its keybinding actions to each be bound to more than one key, which has been fixed by Thomas and Vinay.  I think your arguments sound reasonable, they just don't make sense in a metacity bug report.
Comment 53 Wouter Van Hemel 2006-11-05 01:59:41 UTC
I must have misunderstood the reference in bug 322542, then. My apologies. What I said was not meant to apply to metacity only. I think that any shortcut, whether handled by metacity, control center or any of the gnome daemons (granted I lost track of what is handled where) could benefit from having an easy GUI for setting up multiple keys. Any normal user who wants to set up different keys, could also want to set up additional keys for one action, for instance when they also use different environments and window managers, or because they are migrating from another platform, or want to set up a multimedia keyboard with special buttons for window manager actions.