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Bug 140900 - Science and Engineering toplevel menus
Science and Engineering toplevel menus
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: adwaita-icon-theme
Classification: Core
Component: general
unspecified
Other Linux
: Normal minor
: ---
Assigned To: Jakub Steiner
Jakub Steiner
Depends on:
Blocks: 323603
 
 
Reported: 2004-04-23 01:21 UTC by Pat Suwalski
Modified: 2007-07-04 08:44 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.9/2.10


Attachments
Candidate Icon (svg source) (10.36 KB, image/svg+xml)
2005-05-25 04:58 UTC, Pat Suwalski
Details
48 pixel version (2.51 KB, image/png)
2005-05-25 04:59 UTC, Pat Suwalski
Details
24 pixel version (1.02 KB, image/png)
2005-05-25 04:59 UTC, Pat Suwalski
Details
24 pixel xcf. (5.28 KB, image/x-xcf)
2005-05-25 05:01 UTC, Pat Suwalski
Details
24 pixel version exported from Inkscape. (1.02 KB, image/png)
2005-05-25 05:04 UTC, Pat Suwalski
Details
Wrong attachment last time. 24px image from Inkscape. (1017 bytes, image/png)
2005-05-25 05:05 UTC, Pat Suwalski
Details

Description Pat Suwalski 2004-04-23 01:21:57 UTC
The default categories provided in the applications menu lack important
categories like "Science" and "Engineering".

Those are the two that really should be added by default, from the full listing
at http://freedesktop.org/Standards/menu-spec/menu-spec-0.8.html

As an example, although I can list Celestia (celestia.sf.net) properly as
"Science;Astronomy;Application", in the end it ends up in "Other" on a default
gnome installation. Having a "Science" category would be nice.
Comment 1 Pat Suwalski 2004-04-23 01:25:02 UTC
Forgot to mention that good justification for this is how much Gnome is being
considered for school systems lately. There scientific and engineering programs
are a big thing.
Comment 2 Mark McLoughlin 2004-05-13 10:56:41 UTC
Moving to gnome-vfs, but note that just because there is a Category in the menu
spec doesn't mean there should be a separate menu for that Category.
Comment 3 Pat Suwalski 2004-05-13 17:46:11 UTC
Noted, but with the case of a scientific category, there is absolutely no other
category that it can be matched to. It's also a category that I expect to grow.
Comment 4 Dagmar d'Surreal 2004-06-13 00:35:44 UTC
So where, exactly, are you saying you think this application should come up in
the menus?  I'm going on the assumption that you'll have more Science
applications installed than I, and can say whether or not you think it should go
under Science or Education's heading.  (IMHO, "Science" in the FDO spec should
probably be changed to "Scientific".
Comment 5 Kjartan Maraas 2005-01-04 21:47:47 UTC
Moving to gnome-menus for comments.
Comment 6 Mark McLoughlin 2005-03-08 17:41:55 UTC
Okay, I'm closing this - this should be discussed on xdg-list. No code changes
are required in GNOME to handle new categories.
Comment 7 Mark McLoughlin 2005-03-11 08:16:04 UTC
So, 
Comment 8 Christian Neumair 2005-03-27 19:04:16 UTC
Mark: Any news on this discussion? I think it would really be nice to have these
categories.
Comment 9 Christian Neumair 2005-03-27 19:05:14 UTC
Mark: Why did you add gnome-vfs to the QA list while this bug still has
gnome-menus as product. Isn't this a gnome-menus issue?
Comment 10 Mark McLoughlin 2005-04-04 15:09:31 UTC
Happy to add a Science sub-menu if Celestia and others are using the Science
category. Need an icon for the menu, though.

Pat, could you handle that? Maybe ask jimmac nicely :)
Comment 11 Mark McLoughlin 2005-05-05 08:09:21 UTC
Any progress Pat ?
Comment 12 Pat Suwalski 2005-05-25 04:58:53 UTC
Created attachment 46856 [details]
Candidate Icon (svg source)
Comment 13 Pat Suwalski 2005-05-25 04:59:16 UTC
Created attachment 46857 [details]
48 pixel version
Comment 14 Pat Suwalski 2005-05-25 04:59:36 UTC
Created attachment 46858 [details]
24 pixel version
Comment 15 Pat Suwalski 2005-05-25 05:01:03 UTC
Created attachment 46859 [details]
24 pixel xcf.

I attempted Jimmac's method of manually tracing the downsampled icon. I am not
entirely convinced it worked.
Comment 16 Pat Suwalski 2005-05-25 05:04:09 UTC
Created attachment 46860 [details]
24 pixel version exported from Inkscape.

Exporting a 24 pixel version directly from Inkscape actually produces
favourable results.

Can we use this until something better can be made?
Comment 17 Pat Suwalski 2005-05-25 05:05:41 UTC
Created attachment 46861 [details]
Wrong attachment last time. 24px image from Inkscape.

Correct 24px file exported from Inkscape.
Comment 18 Mark McLoughlin 2005-05-25 06:36:49 UTC
Cool, I'll bounce you on to gnome-icon-theme where the icon needs to be
committed - once that's done, come back to gnome-menus with the Science.directory.in

Thanks
Comment 19 Jakub Steiner 2005-06-30 09:56:50 UTC
does gnome-science sound ok for the icon name? maybe a generic category-science?
Comment 20 Thierry Moisan 2005-12-05 19:12:51 UTC
Hi, ubuntu MOTU science team has been created to get as many science
applications on ubuntu as possible. It would really help them if we get this
menu added to enter all those science applications in a proper space.
Comment 21 Pat Suwalski 2005-12-09 03:49:57 UTC
I think one of the icons here would do just fine:

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fPlusPack

Probably the beaker for being generic.
Comment 22 Luca Ferretti 2006-02-07 19:28:34 UTC
IMHO "Education" is better (more generic, could include Science and other stuff) as menu category, but I should check fd.o standard. Just my feeling.

There are some great icons (tango style) from Andreas Nilsson here http://ramnet.se/~nisse/blog/?p=20 

SVG and PNG available also here http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/tango/ 
Comment 23 Pat Suwalski 2006-02-19 21:14:13 UTC
"Education" is less suited: this category is needed for things like HAM and CAD programs, too.
Comment 24 Pacho Ramos 2007-01-28 18:16:46 UTC
Please, add an Education or Science category to gnome-menues (like in ubuntu)

Thanks a lot
Comment 25 Jakub Steiner 2007-01-28 19:26:15 UTC
applications-science is in.
Comment 26 Pacho Ramos 2007-01-28 20:02:15 UTC
In what version is it fixed? I am using gnome-icon-theme-2.16.1 (in gentoo) and science apps like celestia (Categories=Astronomy;Science;Application;) is in "Others" category. Also, Education category is missing its icon.

Thanks a lot :-)
Comment 27 Jakub Steiner 2007-01-29 01:08:16 UTC
trunk.
Comment 28 Rodney Dawes 2007-01-29 02:32:48 UTC
The icon is there. It doesn't mean that gnome-menus has an appropriate menu file to show a science menu category to the user. That is a separate issue and should be filed as a bug against gnome-menus if not already.
Comment 29 Lapo Calamandrei 2007-07-03 18:54:11 UTC
We have both science and engineering categories icons in g-i-t trunk, can we close this one?
Comment 30 Luca Ferretti 2007-07-03 20:24:31 UTC
Yes, but IMHO we should open a new one. Reading Desktop Menu Spec, it seems there are some "main" categories: AudioVideo, Audio, Video, Development, Education, Game, Graphics, Network, Office, Settings, System, Utility.

Now, Education menu is available in gnome-menus, but Icon Naming Spec don't define any "applications-education" named icon. 'cause Education is a main category for desktop menu spec, maybe we should provide it. But this could need a change/update to Icon Naming Spec itself :-(

BTW Science and Engineering are defined as additional categories...
Comment 31 Jakub Steiner 2007-07-04 08:44:20 UTC
Closing as per discussion.