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Bug 131289 - [UI-REVIEW] Background properties should use the term background not wallpaper
[UI-REVIEW] Background properties should use the term background not wallpaper
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: Background
2.5.x
Other Linux
: High minor
: ---
Assigned To: Rodney Dawes
Control-Center Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks: 115435
 
 
Reported: 2004-01-13 00:19 UTC by Lars Weber
Modified: 2005-05-07 20:30 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Lars Weber 2004-01-13 00:19:39 UTC
As is documented here[1], background is the correct term to use not wallpaper.

[1]
http://developer.gnome.org/documents/style-guide/x3891.html#term-desktop-background
Comment 1 Rodney Dawes 2004-02-05 16:16:51 UTC
I changed the window title and the menu item to say "Desktop
Background". However, I left the label for the list of wallpapers as
"Desktop Wallpaper". The main problem being that as defined in the
style guide, the term is "Desktop Background", and refers specifically
to the image that is on the desktop. I think it would be much more
useful to separate the image and colors more correctly and refer to
them as "Desktop Wallpaper" and "Desktop Colors", while still
referring to the combination of the two, as "Desktop Background". It
seems like this helps to clearly separate what the colors and the
image are, yet allows them to both be joined together, rather than
just trying to say "Desktop Background" to mean any random thing on
the desktop, which seems to be what we are trying to do, currently.
Comment 2 Rodney Dawes 2004-03-11 13:02:01 UTC
No more feedback -> Fixed.
Comment 3 Andrew Sobala 2004-03-11 13:08:06 UTC
It's not really fixed, it needs style guide updation or it's still a
bug. I'd advise mailing the docs list about it.
Comment 4 Lars Weber 2004-03-12 00:17:08 UTC
FWIW, I agree with the idea that the combination of both image and
colors should be referred to as the "Desktop Background" and actually
even suspect that it was meant to be used that way in the
Documentation Style Guide even though it says image there.

When it comes to the individual terms though, I'd personally prefer
"Background Image" to "Background Wallpaper"; the reasons are a) that
people dont usually have any wallpapers on their (RL-)desktops and b)
that the background image only has an effect similar to a wallpaper
when it's tiled.

If there's no objection (anyone faster than myself) I'll soon write a
mail to the Gnome doc list, refering them to this thread...
Comment 5 Eugene O'Connor 2004-03-19 17:59:16 UTC
Lars, I think your suspicion is correct. When we wrote the definition
for desktop background, we did not mean to exclude the color sense of
desktop background. So I will modify the definition from "the image
that is applied to the desktop" to "the color or image that is applied
to the desktop".

For arguments against using the term wallpaper in the UI, see bug
98914.
Comment 6 Rodney Dawes 2004-03-19 18:17:04 UTC
The only relevent piece of text from that bug that mentions
"Wallpaper" is this:

------- Additional Comments From Eugene O'Connor 2002-11-24 11:21 -------

Re: Tile/Wallpaper
The AHD defines wallpaper as "A picture or design covering the 
background of a display screen."

The definition of tile that I will shortly add to the Recommended 
Terminology is "To cover an area with objects that do not overlap."

I agree that Tile is the correct term to use on the Background 
preferences tool. Wallpaper is really just a type of image that is 
specifically designed for a desktop background. The options on the 
tool are actions that are performed on the selected image.

An argument may be made for wallpaper as a verb, but I think it would
still be incorrect - the options on the tool are actions that are 
performed on the selected image, not on the desktop background.
Comment 7 Rodney Dawes 2004-03-19 18:19:58 UTC
This is an argument against using the term Wallpaper to mean Tile in
the verb sense, as an operation on the image itself. Where, you
actually stat the the definition of Wallpaper means exactly what it is
being used for in the new current capplet. Desktop Wallpaper == image
on the desktop background. Desktop Color == colors on the desktop
background. Desktop Background == combination of colors and image that
are displayed on the desktop. So, I'd say this is fine then, and we
need to change the style guide to reflect these definitions, no?
Comment 8 Rodney Dawes 2004-06-28 18:58:27 UTC
How does one move this to being a bug against the style guide, so that we can
get it updated?
Comment 9 Bryan W Clark 2004-07-19 16:23:46 UTC
The style guide [1] has been updated to reflect the new changes to the terms
background and wallpaper.

desktop background

    Definition:  The image or color that is applied to the desktop.

[...]

wallpaper

    Do not use this term. Use the term desktop background. 


Lets make this capplet consistent on the term background removing references to
wallpaper.

[1] http://developer.gnome.org/documents/style-guide/gnome-glossary-desktop.html
Comment 10 Rodney Dawes 2004-07-19 18:34:21 UTC
When was the style guide "updated"? My guess is about 6 months ago, if not more.
Comment 11 Bryan W Clark 2004-07-23 15:18:43 UTC
It doesn't matter, this is a bug against the background capplet not following
the style guide.  

If you want to file a bug against the style guide I'd suggest you do that.

Until the style guide is changed this capplet needs to conform to it's
recommendation.
Comment 12 Jody Goldberg 2004-07-26 13:12:27 UTC
Rodney : Lets renname things.  It make the translators and docuementers live's
easier.
Comment 13 Rodney Dawes 2004-07-26 14:20:44 UTC
Again, where exactly does one file bugs against the style guide? There doesn't
seem to be a Product of "Documentation Style Guide", which should probably have
part of its content moved to the HIG anyway, in bugzilla.
Comment 14 Rodney Dawes 2005-05-07 20:30:38 UTC
Dead-end debate, and no response for almost a year. Closing.