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Bug 119102 - Duplicate in-menu preferences in the prefs page?
Duplicate in-menu preferences in the prefs page?
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: gnome-devel-docs
Classification: Applications
Component: hig
unspecified
Other Linux
: Normal normal
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Assigned To: HIG Maintainers
HIG Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2003-08-04 16:50 UTC by Ross Burton
Modified: 2020-12-04 18:19 UTC
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Description Ross Burton 2003-08-04 16:50:08 UTC
(forwarded from http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=204109)

It is unclear where to place menu items which duplicate (for fast
access) parts or the preerences dialog box.

A typical example is "Word Wrap" check menu item.

Should it be placed in the Edit menu together with "Preferences" menu item? 
Seems a very unsuitable place as it clutters Edit menu with
strange-to-be-here items.

In my opinion in such the case we should create separate Settings menu
where these items (together with "Preferences" item moved from "Edit" menu)
will reside.

But what to do if there are only one menu item
duplicating-a-part-of-preferences dialog? In this case if we will follow my
above suggestion we would have 2 items Edit menu which contradicts to the
rule >=3 items in a menu. In this case (of one such item) I suggest to
leave "Preferences" in "Edit" menu, and place this
fast-access-to-a-preference item directly above it (without separator
between it and "Preferences" item).
Comment 1 Dave Bordoley [Not Reading Bug Mail] 2003-08-05 03:44:21 UTC
I think the typical answer would be you shouldn't put preference items
in the menu. In the example of word wrap, whats the use case of this
outside of a find dialog? It should be available from the find dialog
but not from the general menus. Maybe I am missing something.
Comment 2 Calum Benson 2003-08-05 17:05:53 UTC
Funnily enough I've had a note on my whiteboard for months to write
about something similar :)  Word wrap possibly isn't the best example,
but it's one thing that could conceivably live on a text editor's View
menu as well as in its Preferences dialog.  The question is whether
things like that should appear in both places, or how to decide which
of the two if not.

I don't think the answer is to create a Settings menu though; we
deliberately recommended Edit->Preferences so that Settings menus (and
particularly Settings menus with only one entry in them) would die. 
Nor do I think any such preferences should be confined to any one
menu, if we allow them at all-- they should almost certainly go on
whichever menu they would go if there was no Preferences dialog.
(Which in the majority of cases is probably the View menu).
Comment 3 Seth Nickell 2003-09-21 05:40:02 UTC
Retitling (crappy retitle, but still more descriptive)
Comment 4 Allan Day 2014-09-26 13:40:22 UTC
Nowadays, we recommend that menu items for application preferences are added to the application menu. This seems like a good fit to me - in abstract terms, the object for preferences is the application.