GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 110640
"Add topic" button in new bookmark dialog
Last modified: 2006-05-05 15:37:16 UTC
So it seems there are opposed ideas about this. My opinion is that it's an useful addition (in fact, I think it's a needed one) to the dialog, as that place is where most of the topics should be created: "I'm gonna bookmark this page... but it does not fit in any of the topics I have right now, so I'll create...". You get the idea. Opinions?
CCing usual UI nazi
My gut reaction as UI Nazi is against this idea. IMO, the new bookmark dialog really should serve as an easy way to add a bookmark to the users collection and is really not the place to add bookmark handeling features. Along with this, i imagine that the topics system encourages users to create a set of topics that he/she will use for most of their bookmarks. So the general idea is add a new bookmark to an existing topic. That said we do need a topic for "uncategorized" bookmarks (ie. bookmarks without existing topics). all that said, i imagine the ui here to be generally bad. dialogs poping out of other dialogs is well "bad" and by providing this feature we will undoubtably fall into the trap of someone wanting the ability to remove a topic in the new bookmark dialog as well (what happens when the user adds a topic here, and decided they want to change it etc.). I guess i'm worried about falling into the typical file selector mess issue, where the file selector becomes a file manager.
Oh and I should mention, I rather use the space to add a help button, since I think more "New Users" will find this helpful, since this dialog will probably be the first time they interact with the ephy bookmark system.
IMHO, if I can't add a new category, I don't want the dialog on bookmark creation Either let me add one in peace and quiet, or let me edit the details properly.
Just for the sake of mentioning it, it appears that apple tends to agree with me in the safari new bookmark dialog. www.apple.com/safari/images/indexbookmarksheet01072003.jpg
Removing from tracker. I'm not sure what the right thing is here.
For reference: Phoenix's new bookmark dialog is similar to ours. IE 6 adds disclosure button that gives the user the ability to add a bookmark to a folder and create a new folder, by poping up a modal dialog.
I agree with bug reporter. In fact, I was really surprised that I couldn't add a new Topic/Category in the add dialogue. The reason is because I use Topics/Categories with my Palm Pilot all the time, and it has this feature. So do MS Outlook for contacts. I believe Evolution does, too. They all do it a bit differently, and I don't have them all in front of me, but I'll tell you the way I think it's handled the best (and probably hardest to implement.): In the Category list of the New Bookmark dialog, you add a final entry that can't be checked, and has a button next to it, like this (pardon the ASCII art, the ( ) is a checkbox, (the last real categor) and the [] is a button.) |... | ( ) XML | New Category [Create] ---------------------------- Hope you get the picture. The behavior is thus: When you click on the [Create] button, it creates a new full-fledged Category, highlights the "New Category" text, for easy typeover replacement. When the user gets done typing, they hit Enter, the category's checkbox is checked, and the list gets sorted again. Hope this makes sense. If you don't like having the button in the listbox, then you can just make it active if the user selects it and types over the name. Stephen
*** Bug 120630 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I agree there should be an easy way to create new topics when adding a bookmark.
*** Bug 144288 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
This is fixed in cvs.
*** Bug 148318 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Today I was adding all my bookmarks in Epiphany again (manually, because Epiphany didn't want to import the HTML bookmarks I exported from Konqueror). During this process of adding a lot of bookmarks I spent quite some time in the "Add Bookmark" dialog, and more than once I wanted to create a new topic while I was in the "Add Bookmark" dialog. However I didn't see a button for adding a new topic. So I went to Bugzilla to report a bug, but smart as I am, I decided to look for other bug reports first. Then I read this one. After reading it, I figured out that I could type the name of a new topic in the "Topics" field. It was not obvious to me that it could be done this way. I have a suggestion. The "Topic:" field in the "Add Bookmark" dialog is empty by default. Why not fill the field with the text <type the name of a new topic here, or choose from the list>? Or just place a button for adding a new topic. But as it is currently, the functionality to add a new topic by that method simply was not obvious to me, and I'm not a dumb user. One more thing I should mention is that before figuring out that you could create a new topic by typing the name there, I did the same before, but I thought that didn't work. To be more precise: Type something in the topic field and press Enter. Nothing will happen, topic won't be created, because you have to click "Create topic X" in the dropdown below the field. I didn't see that because I was typing very fast and assumed Enter to work. Long story, hope it makes some sense :)