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Bug 108677 - Show Desktop button doesn't match glossary
Show Desktop button doesn't match glossary
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: gnome-panel
Classification: Other
Component: show-desktop-button
2.3.x
Other Linux
: High minor
: ---
Assigned To: Panel Maintainers
Panel Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2003-03-18 15:56 UTC by Dafydd Harries
Modified: 2004-12-22 21:47 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description Dafydd Harries 2003-03-18 15:56:52 UTC
The Show Desktop button has a tooltip saying "show the desktop". This
disagrees with my understanding of how the word "desktop" should be used
according to the GNOME Style Guide's glossary
(http://developer.gnome.org/documents/style-guide/gnome-glossary-desktop.html).
Accordingly, I've replaced "show the desktop" with "show the desktop
background".

There is a patch included below. Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with CVS, so
I may have done this wrong.

Index: applets/wncklet/showdesktop.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-panel/applets/wncklet/showdesktop.c,v
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -r1.6 showdesktop.c
--- applets/wncklet/showdesktop.c       7 Mar 2003 04:00:36 -0000       1.6
+++ applets/wncklet/showdesktop.c       18 Mar 2003 15:44:28 -0000
@@ -219,7 +219,7 @@
                              _("Click here to restore hidden windows."));
         } else {
                 set_tooltip (sdd->button,
-                             _("Click here to hide all windows and show
the desktop."));
+                             _("Click here to hide all windows and show
the desktop background."));
         }
 }
  
@@ -453,7 +453,7 @@
  
         about = gnome_about_new (_("Show Desktop Button"), VERSION,
                                  "Copyright \xc2\xa9 2002 Red Hat, Inc.",
-                                 _("This button lets you hide all windows and
show the desktop"),
+                                 _("This button lets you hide all windows and
show the desktop background"),
                                  authors,
                                  documenters,
                                  strcmp (translator_credits,
"translator_credits") != 0 ? translator_credits : NULL,
Comment 1 Kjartan Maraas 2003-04-22 15:40:14 UTC
Is this good or bad? Did anyone discuss the terminology here?
Comment 2 Mark McLoughlin 2003-05-19 13:03:49 UTC
I think this was discussed before ... I'm not sure even this is the
correct terminology as its not just the desktop background we're
showing, but also the desktop icons.

CC-ing our linguistic ornothologists (Pat and Eugene)
Comment 3 Christian Neumair 2003-05-24 19:17:05 UTC
I think Mark is right. When referring to the "Desktop", we always mean
the whole workspace including it's content. When talking about the
"Desktop Background", we talk about the part of the desktop you can
modify by right-clicking on the desktop and selecting the "Change
Desktop _Background" menu item.
Anyway, Dafydd, thanks for your patch!
Basically since 2.x we changed our terminology, so the style guide
definitly needs a touch. I propose renaming "Desktop" to "Desktop
Environment" and "Desktop Background" to "Desktop". Of course that
requires a new definition for "Desktop Background".

regs,
 Chris
Comment 4 Eugene O'Connor 2003-06-04 16:14:48 UTC
Here a couple more possible titles for this button:

   - Minimize All Windows
   - Hide All Windows
Comment 5 Patrick Costello 2003-06-04 16:35:54 UTC
Outside of the GNOME community, there is still a sizeable lobby that
thinks that "desktop" = "everything". For example the marketing group
in Sun thinks that is the case, and continues to tout the "GNOME
Desktop". The definition of "desktop background" = "the place behind
the icons" falls out naturally from the prior definition. 

Having said that, there is merit in the suggestion that Chris puts
forward. There seems to be substantially on-going support for the
concept that "desktop" = "the place behind the icons". There is a
discussion going on elsewhare about changing the "Actions" menu to
"Desktop", see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89874.

If we say that "Desktop Environment" = everything, then would we be
able to renominate the "Actions" menu to "Desktop Environment"? A long
menu header, but probably accurate. Also, we could probably move the
menu item "Desktop Preferences" from the "Applications" menu, into the
renamed "Desktop Environment", and drop the "Desktop" part so that the
menu item would be just "Preferences". Implying preferences for the
whole desktop environment.

We can't just make the changes that Chris suggests without taking into
account the above considerations. Ramble, ramble...
Comment 6 Patrick Costello 2003-06-04 16:48:45 UTC
...and I forgot to add: 

Eugene is correct when he suggests labels for the button that match
the real functionality. Even if we change the name of the thing behind
the icons to "desktop", the button in question still does not shown
the desktop. There will always be bits floating around that are not
genuine parts of the "desktop", even in the revised definition of the
term desktop. We should accurately match the label with perceived
functionality.
Comment 7 Mark McLoughlin 2003-07-02 09:13:25 UTC
My understanding of:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-June/msg00456.html

is that the current terminology is okay ...

Re-open if not.