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Bug 733067 - cerbero: support python3
cerbero: support python3
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: GStreamer
Classification: Platform
Component: cerbero
git master
Other All
: Normal enhancement
: git master
Assigned To: GStreamer Maintainers
GStreamer Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks: 789316
 
 
Reported: 2014-07-11 15:38 UTC by Dirk Van Haerenborgh
Modified: 2018-04-09 10:52 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
support python3 (51.05 KB, patch)
2014-07-11 15:38 UTC, Dirk Van Haerenborgh
none Details | Review
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase (129.12 KB, patch)
2017-12-15 16:40 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (12.15 KB, patch)
2017-12-15 16:41 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (16.69 KB, patch)
2017-12-15 20:39 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (17.33 KB, patch)
2017-12-15 21:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase (129.98 KB, patch)
2017-12-18 15:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (15.09 KB, patch)
2017-12-18 15:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
WIP: python3: Use the SDK version corresponding to the interpreter (7.17 KB, patch)
2017-12-18 15:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Update README (2.63 KB, patch)
2017-12-18 15:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase (129.98 KB, patch)
2017-12-18 19:49 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (21.12 KB, patch)
2017-12-18 19:49 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Update README (2.63 KB, patch)
2017-12-18 19:49 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase (129.98 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 18:33 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (18.68 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 18:33 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Remove unused SDK on Windows (4.75 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 18:33 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Update README (2.63 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 18:33 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Run 2to3 script to convert the whole codebase (129.98 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 19:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (18.68 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 19:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Remove unused Windows SDK (4.75 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 19:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
committed Details | Review
python3: Update README (2.63 KB, patch)
2017-12-19 19:03 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase (130.83 KB, patch)
2018-03-20 15:15 UTC, Xavier Claessens
committed Details | Review
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script (19.07 KB, patch)
2018-03-20 15:15 UTC, Xavier Claessens
committed Details | Review
python3: Update README (2.60 KB, patch)
2018-03-20 15:15 UTC, Xavier Claessens
none Details | Review
python3: Update README (2.69 KB, patch)
2018-03-27 19:30 UTC, Xavier Claessens
committed Details | Review

Description Dirk Van Haerenborgh 2014-07-11 15:38:58 UTC
Created attachment 280519 [details] [review]
support python3

This patch enables python3 support for cerbero. It's a single codebase, but I had to drop support for 2.5 as it would make things just too ugly.

Mostly, this addresses changes in iterating over lists and dictionaties, and some byte/string stuff to supports python3's notion of unicode.

Running cerbero with python3 and enabling the python3 variant does however create some redundancy I'd still like to get rid of. When enabling the python3 variant, gobject-introspection will depend on python3, which in turn will get built from source. This seems unneeded, since python3 is obviously already available.
Comment 1 Tim-Philipp Müller 2016-04-17 23:50:00 UTC
Just wanted to say thanks for the patch, and sorry this fell through the cracks!
Comment 2 Dirk Van Haerenborgh 2016-04-18 15:36:22 UTC
No problem, though after nearly two years I doubt the patch will still apply :)
I doubt I can find time to update it...
Comment 3 Nirbheek Chauhan 2016-04-18 17:04:01 UTC
(In reply to Dirk Van Haerenborgh from comment #2)
> No problem, though after nearly two years I doubt the patch will still apply
> :)
> I doubt I can find time to update it...

I've been meaning to work on this myself, so I'll take a look at the patch and update it sometime soon. Most likely during the spring hackfest next month. :)
Comment 4 dashesy 2016-11-12 22:39:24 UTC
I am working on a PR to add Python3 support here: https://github.com/centricular/cerbero/pull/1

It is work in progress still. I appreciate any feedback or comments.

Most libraries (definitely those as useful as cerbero) should have support for Python3, and also they should be in pypi. 

Next I would like to see what it takes for setup.py to add cerbero to pypi. At this point I am interested in having a straightforward way for native compilation of gstreamer on Windows (with pdb to debug!) but I think I will rely more on cerbero in the future!
Comment 5 dashesy 2016-11-29 17:27:04 UTC
It is working in Python3 (and Python2). I tested it in Linux and Windows.
Comment 6 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2017-01-03 01:00:53 UTC
Looking at the patch, it's mostly trivial change. Though, a question raised into my mind, do we really need or want to keep Python 2 support ?
Comment 7 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-01-03 01:08:45 UTC
I think it is useful to keep Python 2 support for macOS since it still doesn't ship Python 3, and it would be strange to require Homebrew just for that.

It would be great if you could review the GitHub pull request; we can then move the patch(es) to bugzilla and get them in. I've been a bit occupied lately. :/
Comment 8 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-14 21:12:24 UTC
meson is going to be python3 only anyway, so I wouldn't be too worried about keeping python2 support in cerbero. Especially since it's really complicate to build meson inside cerbero since that mix python2 and python3. See bug #789316.
Comment 9 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-14 21:36:24 UTC
I think we should get this merged ASAP and deal with any breakage later. Such big patch gets out of sync quickly and is a pain to rebase and re-test. If we find regressions it will be easy to fix anyway.
Comment 10 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-15 01:51:10 UTC
Maybe we can require Python 3 in Meson mode and accept either Python 2 or 3 in Autotools mode?

To be honest, I would love it to just support Python 3, but we need to be sure that there's an easy way for macOS developers to use Cerbero. If we can do that with Python 3, we should definitely go for it.
Comment 11 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 03:31:59 UTC
I never used macos, but as far as I understand on the web, it's exactly the same as on windows: click click on an installer then set the PATH in your ~/.bash_profile. I don't think it's too much to ask to have python3 in 2018, sooner or later we'll have something depending on it.
Comment 12 Matthew Waters (ystreet00) 2017-12-15 03:45:50 UTC
macos has python2 by default though without requiring any additional installation.  The question is if we want to require them to download python3 or be able to use the already installed python2 version.
Comment 13 Sebastian Dröge (slomo) 2017-12-15 08:14:08 UTC
Require them to install python3. It will be needed in the near future for meson builds of GStreamer anyway.
Comment 14 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 16:40:56 UTC
Created attachment 365598 [details] [review]
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase

This is only the raw output of the script, no manual editing. The code
is now python3 only.
Comment 15 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 16:41:00 UTC
Created attachment 365599 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 16 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 16:42:21 UTC
Build on linux works, I'm currently running cross build to windows/android. Would be nice if CI can be run on this, if someone knows how to setup that.
Comment 17 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 20:39:35 UTC
Created attachment 365603 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 18 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 20:56:38 UTC
I've tested on osx and it's litterally just clicking on an installer from python.org, no setup needed. Build is ongoing, we'll see if it pass.

cross compile linux->android passed.

Open questions:

- I see there are python2 references in bootstrap/windows.py:install_python_sdk(), I've no idea what it does.

- config/windows.py setup python2 stuff, I don't know what it does.

- libxml2 install python2 modules

- cross compile on linux for win64 fails at the end with an error in hacks.py:write(), I don't know how to fix it.
Comment 19 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 21:03:20 UTC
Created attachment 365604 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 20 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-15 21:03:46 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #18)
> - cross compile on linux for win64 fails at the end with an error in
> hacks.py:write(), I don't know how to fix it.

Fixed.
Comment 21 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-16 17:37:35 UTC
I noticed gobject-introspection needs libpython 2.7 so we still need both when building it, but I don't think anything essential depends on it.
Comment 22 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-16 18:04:19 UTC
gobject-introspection builds just fine against python 3.4. In fact there's a WIP Meson port too: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gobject-introspection/log/?h=wip/meson
Comment 23 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2017-12-16 18:13:05 UTC
I think it needs both, as it builds support for both when possible (there a native side). Same for gst-python iirc, should not be affected by meson too much hopefully.
Comment 24 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-16 21:39:15 UTC
It doesn't need the interpreter but headers: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gobject-introspection/tree/configure.ac#n268
Comment 25 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-17 05:42:42 UTC
nevermind, with --with-python=python3 it will lookup for py3 headers as well. But that probably won't work on windows, it seems to extract gstreamer-external-sdk which is py2.7 headers. That needs to be updated as well I guess?
Comment 26 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-17 20:29:59 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #25)
> nevermind, with --with-python=python3 it will lookup for py3 headers as
> well. But that probably won't work on windows, it seems to extract
> gstreamer-external-sdk which is py2.7 headers. That needs to be updated as
> well I guess?

Yes, we shouldn't need gstreamer-external-sdk at all, especially if you build g-i with meson. I've already verified that g-i + meson works on Windows with a standard native Python 3 installation.

Autotools will require some changes, but you can find the Python headers and libs easily, see: https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/blob/6f42f83867a52c1f9c61a2780dfd808a21984e41/mesonbuild/dependencies/misc.py#L687. Perhaps copying from there makes sense instead of using the outdated SDK. We can get rid of it when we move to Meson.
Comment 27 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 02:19:13 UTC
Don't you still need it when cross building for windows, otherwise it would use de linux sdk, no?
Comment 28 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 15:03:29 UTC
Created attachment 365701 [details] [review]
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase

This is only the raw output of the script, no manual editing. The code
is now python3 only.
Comment 29 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 15:03:34 UTC
Created attachment 365702 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 30 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 15:03:40 UTC
Created attachment 365703 [details] [review]
WIP: python3: Use the SDK version corresponding to the interpreter

On modern Linux, Windows and MacOS it will be python3.6, but Ubuntu
16.04 LTS has python3.5.

WIP: gobject-introspection fails to build when cross compiling on Ubuntu
16.04 for Windows.
Comment 31 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 15:03:46 UTC
Created attachment 365704 [details] [review]
python3: Update README
Comment 32 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 19:49:03 UTC
Created attachment 365721 [details] [review]
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase

This is only the raw output of the script, no manual editing. The code
is now python3 only.
Comment 33 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 19:49:09 UTC
Created attachment 365722 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 34 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 19:49:18 UTC
Created attachment 365723 [details] [review]
python3: Update README
Comment 35 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 19:51:00 UTC
ok so g-i never worked when cross compiling to windows, so that's correct.

I needs windows-external-sdk from https://gitlab.collabora.com/xclaesse/windows-external-sdk
Comment 36 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2017-12-18 20:01:52 UTC
Review of attachment 365721 [details] [review]:

Can you fix the commit message ? conver -> convert
Comment 37 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2017-12-18 20:21:13 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #35)
> ok so g-i never worked when cross compiling to windows, so that's correct.
> 
> I needs windows-external-sdk from
> https://gitlab.collabora.com/xclaesse/windows-external-sdk

gstreamer-sdk/ is read-only now, we'll clone this back into gstreamer/ first, Tim will take care.
Comment 38 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-18 20:41:41 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #27)
> Don't you still need it when cross building for windows, otherwise it would
> use de linux sdk, no?

We don't enable gi while cross-compiling at all:

if not self.prefix_is_executable() and self.variants.gi:
    m.warning(_("gobject introspection requires an executable "
                "prefix, 'gi' variant will be removed"))
    self.variants.gi = False

You need Wine to actually run g-ir-scanner g-ir-compiler etc and build typelibs/girs, which is why it's disabled.

(In reply to Nicolas Dufresne (stormer) from comment #37)
> (In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #35)
> > ok so g-i never worked when cross compiling to windows, so that's correct.
> > 
> > I needs windows-external-sdk from
> > https://gitlab.collabora.com/xclaesse/windows-external-sdk
> 
> gstreamer-sdk/ is read-only now, we'll clone this back into gstreamer/
> first, Tim will take care.

So, let's not do all this? :)
Comment 39 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-18 20:53:59 UTC
(In reply to Nirbheek Chauhan from comment #38)

> > gstreamer-sdk/ is read-only now, we'll clone this back into gstreamer/
> > first, Tim will take care.
> 
> So, let's not do all this? :)

We still need that Python 3.6 SDK for native Windows build. It's temporary until we use meson for g-i AFAIU.
Comment 40 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-18 21:02:22 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #39)
> (In reply to Nirbheek Chauhan from comment #38)
> 
> > > gstreamer-sdk/ is read-only now, we'll clone this back into gstreamer/
> > > first, Tim will take care.
> > 
> > So, let's not do all this? :)
> 
> We still need that Python 3.6 SDK for native Windows build. It's temporary
> until we use meson for g-i AFAIU.

I'm saying that instead of doing that, we should copy the headers and DLLs from the Python installation, and the paths where you will find all that are:

(In reply to Nirbheek Chauhan from comment #26)
> Autotools will require some changes, but you can find the Python headers and
> libs easily, see:
> https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/blob/
> 6f42f83867a52c1f9c61a2780dfd808a21984e41/mesonbuild/dependencies/misc.
> py#L687. Perhaps copying from there makes sense instead of using the
> outdated SDK. We can get rid of it when we move to Meson.
Comment 41 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 01:38:01 UTC
oh ok, I see! It's indeed much better. Why hasn't it always been like that?
Comment 42 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-19 10:50:12 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #41)
> oh ok, I see! It's indeed much better. Why hasn't it always been like that?

No idea. You'd have to ask the folks who made it. Perhaps that's how a client needed it, or maybe there was some problem with older versions of Python 2.

Everyone else builds against the system python, whether that's an MSYS2 Python or native Windows one.
Comment 43 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 16:05:26 UTC
I don't see how it can possibly work since 2012! That commit in g-i drop the support for env variables that cerbero sets:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gobject-introspection/commit/m4/python.m4?id=46ccb9dfe51372b0fc51c93890088853d0f1617e

So I think we can just drop completely all that code.
Comment 44 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-19 17:21:51 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #43)
> I don't see how it can possibly work since 2012! That commit in g-i drop the
> support for env variables that cerbero sets:
> 
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gobject-introspection/commit/m4/python.
> m4?id=46ccb9dfe51372b0fc51c93890088853d0f1617e
> 
> So I think we can just drop completely all that code.

So weird. I know people are using GStreamer bindings through g-i on Windows, but I guess they don't use Cerbero for it? I checked, and we don't ship typelibs and girs in the Windows gstreamer binaries either.

Let's drop g-i on Windows for Autotools then. I'll fix it with Meson.
Comment 45 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 18:33:37 UTC
Created attachment 365755 [details] [review]
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase

This is only the raw output of the script, no manual editing. The code
is now python3 only.
Comment 46 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 18:33:42 UTC
Created attachment 365756 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 47 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 18:33:50 UTC
Created attachment 365757 [details] [review]
python3: Remove unused SDK on Windows

Those environment variables are not used by python.m4 since 2012. It
is using python-config instead which is not present on Windows. so I
don't think it has been working on Windows since then. See:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gobject-introspection/commit/m4/python.m4?id=46ccb9dfe51372b0fc51c93890088853d0f1617e
Comment 48 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 18:33:56 UTC
Created attachment 365758 [details] [review]
python3: Update README
Comment 49 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 19:03:16 UTC
Created attachment 365760 [details] [review]
python3: Run 2to3 script to convert the whole codebase

This is only the raw output of the script, no manual editing. The code
is now python3 only.
Comment 50 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 19:03:23 UTC
Created attachment 365761 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 51 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 19:03:34 UTC
Created attachment 365762 [details] [review]
python3: Remove unused Windows SDK

Those environment variables are not used by python.m4 since 2012. It
is using python-config instead which is not present on Windows. so I
don't think it has been working on Windows since then. See:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gobject-introspection/commit/m4/python.m4?id=46ccb9dfe51372b0fc51c93890088853d0f1617e
Comment 52 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-19 19:03:39 UTC
Created attachment 365763 [details] [review]
python3: Update README
Comment 53 Xavier Claessens 2017-12-20 18:48:14 UTC
For the record, I successfully built on linux, cross-android-arm64, cross-win64 and on macosx.

Slomo thinks we should wait for 1.14.0 to be released early next year first.
Comment 54 Nirbheek Chauhan 2017-12-20 18:52:22 UTC
(In reply to Xavier Claessens from comment #53)
> For the record, I successfully built on linux, cross-android-arm64,
> cross-win64 and on macosx.
> 

Nice!

> Slomo thinks we should wait for 1.14.0 to be released early next year first.

It would certainly give more time for people to test and complain about things we broken. :)
Comment 55 Xavier Claessens 2018-03-20 15:15:10 UTC
Created attachment 369911 [details] [review]
python3: Run 2to3 script to conver the whole codebase

This is only the raw output of the script, no manual editing. The code
is now python3 only.
Comment 56 Xavier Claessens 2018-03-20 15:15:32 UTC
Created attachment 369912 [details] [review]
python3: Manual fixing of errors left by 2to3 script

Some of those fixes come from Ehsan Azar's branch.
Comment 57 Xavier Claessens 2018-03-20 15:15:41 UTC
Created attachment 369913 [details] [review]
python3: Update README
Comment 58 Xavier Claessens 2018-03-20 15:19:45 UTC
Rebased on master, now that 1.14 got released.
Comment 59 Xavier Claessens 2018-03-20 19:07:27 UTC
I tested native build on Ubuntu 17.10, cross build for android arm64 and cross build for win64.
Comment 60 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2018-03-27 18:29:45 UTC
Review of attachment 369912 [details] [review]:

Looks good.

::: cerbero/config.py
@@ +538,3 @@
         version = shell.check_call("perl -e 'print \"$]\";'")
         # FIXME: when perl's mayor is >= 10
+        mayor = str(version[0])

I bet mayor is a typo here. Maybe a small follow up patch ?
Comment 61 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2018-03-27 18:30:44 UTC
Review of attachment 369911 [details] [review]:

I've randomly looked at the changed and they seems ok. There is one with ugly exec(open(blabla)) somewhere, but I bet if we stumble across that we can come-up with something better later.
Comment 62 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2018-03-27 18:47:44 UTC
Review of attachment 369913 [details] [review]:

::: README
@@ +66,1 @@
+The python.exe also needs to be renamed to python3.exe.

As discuss, I think we need to think a little more about this one, that's quite ugly and might clash with user existing work.
Comment 63 Xavier Claessens 2018-03-27 19:17:36 UTC
(In reply to Nicolas Dufresne (stormer) from comment #62)
> Review of attachment 369913 [details] [review] [review]:
> 
> ::: README
> @@ +66,1 @@
> +The python.exe also needs to be renamed to python3.exe.
> 
> As discuss, I think we need to think a little more about this one, that's
> quite ugly and might clash with user existing work.

That's because the shebang is set to "python3" but on windows both python2 and python3 install python.exe.

I guess the alternative is to invoke cerbero-uninstalled like:
$ python ./cerbero-uninstalled

But then we have to make sure that when cerbero invokes meson it will pass use argv[0] instead of "python3". I guess that's the best way to dodge all those PATH issues.
Comment 64 Xavier Claessens 2018-03-27 19:30:22 UTC
Created attachment 370216 [details] [review]
python3: Update README
Comment 65 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2018-03-27 19:52:02 UTC
Review of attachment 370216 [details] [review]:

d3dfaa3c47fd930a08f5496982c3eb97d3d17e15
Comment 66 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2018-03-27 19:52:07 UTC
Review of attachment 369912 [details] [review]:

fa78642c4a7f16ff309dd24aed271032e33d8e0a
Comment 67 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2018-03-27 19:52:11 UTC
Review of attachment 369911 [details] [review]:

029a2a8d3b7e2024941792ac94d03d5dcb55a406
Comment 68 Nicolas Dufresne (ndufresne) 2018-03-27 19:53:07 UTC
Keeping open, we'll follow up base on the CI report. I'll wipe each build after their first run in order to check full rebuild (and ensure clean state).
Comment 69 Edward Hervey 2018-04-09 07:57:05 UTC
Seems ok, no ?
Comment 70 Xavier Claessens 2018-04-09 10:52:13 UTC
Yep.