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Bug 675971 - Localize "Edit with GIMP" entry in Windows Explorer right click menu
Localize "Edit with GIMP" entry in Windows Explorer right click menu
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: GIMP
Classification: Other
Component: Windows Installer
2.8.0
Other Windows
: Normal normal
: 2.10
Assigned To: GIMP Bugs
Jernej Simončič
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2012-05-13 10:32 UTC by Fabio Sasso
Modified: 2018-01-03 10:20 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
localization error (25.55 KB, image/png)
2012-05-14 20:45 UTC, Fabio Sasso
Details

Description Fabio Sasso 2012-05-13 10:32:51 UTC
I have system in italian but when I right click on an icon I see "edit with GIMP" and not "Modifica con GIMP".
Comment 1 André Klapper 2012-05-13 20:38:28 UTC
What are the exact steps to reproduce? 
"right click on an icon" is a bit vague to reproduce...
Comment 2 Fabio Sasso 2012-05-13 20:52:44 UTC
for example if you have an image file on your desktop and right click on it you see the entry in the menu "edit with GIMP" in english and not localized.
Comment 3 André Klapper 2012-05-14 19:34:39 UTC
Which system is this about? Really, you have to provide way better and exact steps in order to reproduce. Screenshot is also welcome...
Comment 4 Fabio Sasso 2012-05-14 20:45:23 UTC
Created attachment 214031 [details]
localization error
Comment 5 Fabio Sasso 2012-05-14 20:46:29 UTC
I'm using Windows 7 64bit, please tell me if you need more info
Comment 6 Michael Schumacher 2012-05-14 23:20:52 UTC
This entry is created by the installer, and there are no translations for the installer yet.

Grab the English translation from http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/plain/build/windows/installer/en.setup.isl?h=gimp-2-8 and translate it to your language, and then attach it here - this will allow us to provide the installer with an Italian interface.
Comment 7 Fabio Sasso 2012-05-16 11:28:49 UTC
I have some questions, the first, more important, is about "comments"
I've noticed that this comment are about the behaviour of the application so why put a comment in the translation files?

for example:
[CustomMessages]
;shown before the wizard starts on development versions of GIMP

;only when installing on x64 Windows
ComponentsGimp32=Support for 32-bit plug-ins
ComponentsGimp32Description=Include files necessary for using 32-bit plug-ins.%nRequired for Python support.

;%1 is replaced by file name; these messages should never appear (unless user runs out of disk space at the exact right moment)
ErrorChangingEnviron=There was a problem updating GIMP's environment in %1. If you get any errors loading the plug-ins, try uninstalling and re-installing GIMP.
...
...

;displayed in Explorer's right-click menu
OpenWithGimp=Edit with GIMP

Who need to know that? I think it goes against the abstraction of the files, "behaviours" of the application shouldn't be translated so shouldn't be in a translation files.
In fact when translating this strings I though: "who will read this?" this is an automatic file readed by some parser that substitute english string with localiezed one.

I've translated ~ half of the file, I have other question too but first I want to know about comments questions and if I have to translate it.
Comment 8 André Klapper 2012-05-16 11:57:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> Grab the English translation from
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/plain/build/windows/installer/en.setup.isl?h=gimp-2-8
> and translate it to your language, and then attach it here - this will allow us
> to provide the installer with an Italian interface.

Michael:
Is this listed on http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gimp/ ?
Are GNOME translation teams aware of this and are translations processed (proof-read etc) by the corresponding translation teams, so terminology is consistent?
Comment 9 André Klapper 2012-05-16 12:13:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> I've noticed that this comment are about the behaviour of the application so
> why put a comment in the translation files?

Because it helps the translator to properly translate them, as s/he knows the context/situation when the string is shown.

> Who need to know that?

A good translator.
Comment 10 Fabio Sasso 2012-05-16 14:29:50 UTC
thanks, so I suppose I don't need to trasnlate them.

because I still need to translate myself that file right?
Comment 11 Michael Schumacher 2012-05-16 21:13:23 UTC
These are translation files for a Windows-based installer creator. No po-Files involved, so I'm not sure how those would be integrated into the GNOME translation process...
Comment 12 Jernej Simončič 2012-05-16 21:29:24 UTC
I can probably write a script that would convert between the formats. Note that the .isl file included with GIMP doesn't contain all the messages used by the installer - the majority are part of Inno Setup itself, with the language file available here:
<https://github.com/jrsoftware/issrc/blob/master/Files/Default.isl>

Some translations of this file are part of Inno Setup distribution itself: 
<https://github.com/jrsoftware/issrc/tree/master/Files/Languages>

Inno Setup goes to great lengths to keep the language files stable - the next version will add new strings for the first time in over 5 years.
Comment 13 André Klapper 2012-07-21 11:18:08 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> These are translation files for a Windows-based installer creator. No po-Files
> involved, so I'm not sure how those would be integrated into the GNOME
> translation process...

Michael: Please add that to https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/TranslationsOutsideStatus
Comment 14 Michael Schumacher 2012-07-22 18:27:14 UTC
Done.
Comment 15 Max Mustermann 2012-09-07 18:10:20 UTC
Confirming this for GIMP 2.8.2 on Windows 7, 32 bit. 

I reinstalled GIMP (without former uninstallation), and used default setup settings as well as customized ones. When using customized setup settings, I associated all file types with GIMP. I tried with Italian and English installation language. 

This should happen: 
On right clicking on an associated image file in the Windows Explorer, the  context menu should show the (translated) item 'Edit with GIMP'.

This happens: 
Either the pure 'Open' or 'Open with/GNU Image Manipulation Program and other programs' item are there - just as no associations were done by the installer.
Comment 16 Tobias Mueller 2013-01-25 00:34:02 UTC
Reading comment #15 I feel that NEW is the appropriate status. Feel free to reset.
Comment 17 Michael Schumacher 2013-01-25 07:35:47 UTC
I'm not sure if the installer log contains the actual strings used, but it would probably good to attach one to this bug. Add /LOG="filename" when running the installer.
Comment 18 Michael Schumacher 2017-03-09 14:41:43 UTC
Does this exist now?
Comment 19 Fabio Sasso 2017-03-09 14:44:38 UTC
I don't know anymore.
Comment 20 André Klapper 2017-03-09 14:49:49 UTC
Fabio: Could you explain why you closed this ticket as FIXED please?
Comment 21 Michael Schumacher 2017-03-10 12:07:12 UTC
We prefer to only close bugs as resolved fixed if we can identify a commit that fixed them.
Comment 22 Fabio Sasso 2017-03-10 13:15:06 UTC
Yes but I opened this BUG long time ago and now I can't reproduce it anymore so I cannot track its status.
If this bug wasn't solved in all this time is better to close it to simplify the management of bugs?
Comment 23 Michael Natterer 2018-01-02 22:54:46 UTC
The translations for the installer are there, the string is translated
into various languages. Let's assume it's FIXED.
Comment 24 Fabio Sasso 2018-01-03 10:20:56 UTC
ok