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Bug 594088 - Palimpsest GUI impossible to use on small screen
Palimpsest GUI impossible to use on small screen
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: gnome-disk-utility
Classification: Core
Component: Disks UI
2.30.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: gnome-disk-utility-maint
gnome-disk-utility-maint
: 616792 621862 628707 665646 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2009-09-03 22:30 UTC by w1zard
Modified: 2012-11-12 20:56 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
Screengrab - Palimpsest GUI on netbook screen (72.78 KB, image/png)
2009-09-03 22:30 UTC, w1zard
  Details
A patch for display over screen (1.19 KB, patch)
2010-06-11 08:55 UTC, David Yu-Chia Chang
needs-work Details | Review

Description w1zard 2009-09-03 22:30:29 UTC
Created attachment 142441 [details]
Screengrab - Palimpsest GUI on netbook screen

Palimpsest has reported SMART errors on my internal flash disk (do they even
have SMART?) However the issue is that the GUI is larger than the small screen
on my netbook (800x480).

Clicking any of the buttons in the GUI, or attempting to resize the left/right
panes just flicks the entire interface from left to right. If I repeatedly
click in random places, I might hit on a button when it's shifting from
side-to-side but it's effectively unusable. The entire window is shifting from
half-off-screen to the left, then half-off-screen to the right.

I've not seen this behaviour on any other app within Ubuntu Karmic Alpha, so
assume it's specific to Palimpsest. Hopefully this can be resolved so I can run
further tests on my disk :)
Comment 1 Matt Behrens 2009-09-17 12:18:25 UTC
Confirming.  palimpsest is more usable, but important buttons still go offscreen i.e. when setting up a blank USB stick on my 1024×600 netbook.
Comment 2 Horst Schulze 2010-01-11 11:09:00 UTC
Same Problem. Please implement a scrollbar do make it usable also on 1027x768 and smaller!
Comment 3 Omer Akram 2010-02-27 10:21:17 UTC
Hey, Developer(s) of the disk utility. at minimum please add a scroll bar so that the app serve the purpose for which it is made for on small screen.
Comment 4 Omer Akram 2010-02-27 10:33:04 UTC
actually the interface of 2.29.0 is much much bigger to fit small screens :(
Comment 5 Omer Akram 2010-05-09 16:29:09 UTC
*** Bug 616792 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 David Yu-Chia Chang 2010-06-11 08:55:57 UTC
Created attachment 163369 [details] [review]
A patch for display over screen

Put the widget into scrolled window.
Comment 7 Omer Akram 2010-07-20 11:26:09 UTC
would anyone merge it? the same patch is being used in meego where it works.
Comment 8 Bilal Akhtar 2010-08-19 07:34:29 UTC
Please get David's patch into quickly. MeeGo has already accepted it.
Comment 9 Martin Pitt 2010-08-19 08:33:13 UTC
Review of attachment 163369 [details] [review]:

The patch still applies to current trunk, but it's a bit ugly -- the scrollbars now never go away, but they should if the window is big enough to fit the entire contents.
Comment 10 Martin Pitt 2010-08-19 08:40:45 UTC
Committed with the fixed scrollbar policy:

http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-disk-utility/commit/?id=dcfdaad239372516a4f4826349afe4e613aaedec

Thanks!
Comment 11 David Zeuthen (not reading bugmail) 2010-09-15 14:58:54 UTC
When I started Palimpsest on my laptop the window didn't have scrollbars because the the "Local Storage" item (with no elements) was selected. When I moved the focus to /dev/sda, scrollbars appeared even though the window, had it been resized, would have fitted. Sorry, but this is the wrong way to solve the problem.

The right way to solve this problem involves slight visual redesigns (in particular the buttons are too big) - and also just telling people that they need bigger screens / smaller fonts. E.g. minimum 1024x768.

I've reverted the patch for now:

http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-disk-utility/commit/?id=dde297e78b41a95f8565bf28803ff0c402790fef

and I'm reopening the bug since I do acknowledge that this is annoying for some people even on 1024x768 (especially if you have a lot of disks).
Comment 12 Teppo Turtiainen 2011-06-03 05:55:56 UTC
*** Bug 621862 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Teppo Turtiainen 2011-06-03 05:56:04 UTC
*** Bug 628707 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Milan Bouchet-Valat 2011-06-03 09:37:52 UTC
On the other report, I had suggested other solutions, about the string "Disks has a few damaged sectors", which is sometimes the culprit:
- fix French translation, but I suspect other languages might have the same
issue
- add a translator comment about a max whar width
- make the English string shorter, e.g. "A few damaged sectors"
- make the HBox not homogeneous, which may not be that ugly actually*

The third one is a good start and it's cheap IMHO.
Comment 15 Milan Bouchet-Valat 2011-06-03 09:38:39 UTC
*** Bug 621862 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 16 Michael Wiktowy 2011-06-09 18:56:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> When I started Palimpsest on my laptop the window didn't have scrollbars
> because the the "Local Storage" item (with no elements) was selected. When I
> moved the focus to /dev/sda, scrollbars appeared even though the window, had it
> been resized, would have fitted. Sorry, but this is the wrong way to solve the
> problem.
> 
> The right way to solve this problem involves slight visual redesigns (in
> particular the buttons are too big) - and also just telling people that they
> need bigger screens / smaller fonts. E.g. minimum 1024x768.
> 
> I've reverted the patch for now:
> 
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-disk-utility/commit/?id=dde297e78b41a95f8565bf28803ff0c402790fef
> 
> and I'm reopening the bug since I do acknowledge that this is annoying for some
> people even on 1024x768 (especially if you have a lot of disks).

For some users, getting a bigger screen is not a solution. Reduced real estate on netbooks and tablets is very common and they are getting more and more popular.

Admittedly, no one has displays on their desktop this small but you are cutting out a huge sector of users where Gnome 3 would be an excellent choice and where obtaining a higher resolution screen is not possible.
Comment 17 André Klapper 2011-12-06 13:47:06 UTC
*** Bug 665646 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 18 Hubert Figuiere (:hub) 2011-12-07 08:12:14 UTC
> and I'm reopening the bug since I do acknowledge that this is annoying for some
> people even on 1024x768 (especially if you have a lot of disks).

I just file a duplicate. Note that this is on a Thinkpad X220, where the screen is bigger than what you give 1366x768, and using the default theme in F-16.

I guess that given that the original fix got reverted there is clearly no incentive from an external developer to actually try to fix the problem.
Comment 19 David Zeuthen (not reading bugmail) 2012-11-12 20:56:25 UTC
Default size since GNOME 3.4 been 800x600 which seems works fine for a lot of people - it's using the UI real estate much better than pre-3.4. If your screen is smaller than 800x600, you have to either tweak fonts or the toolkit yourself. Closing.