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Bug 590460 - stop playing the playlist after the song currently played + Stop button (go to the beginning of first song)
stop playing the playlist after the song currently played + Stop button (go t...
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 132128
Product: totem
Classification: Core
Component: general
unspecified
Other All
: Normal enhancement
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Assigned To: General Totem maintainer(s)
General Totem maintainer(s)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2009-08-01 13:47 UTC by Mathieu
Modified: 2009-08-04 22:32 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: Unversioned Enhancement



Description Mathieu 2009-08-01 13:47:55 UTC
Hello,

Using Winamp on Windows, there's some features I'm used to, and I would like to have them in Totem.

First feature:

Supposing you've opened a playlist in totem, and now you'll go, or you are bored by the music, you want to stop it.
You can do it immediately by clicking "Pause" (there's no stop button), but what if I prefer listening the song until its end.
To say everything, I hate listening it to the end, and 2 seconds of the next song before pausing, or closing the program!

The other thing, is... the stop button.
1) You can click on it, and then click "play" again to listen the song from its beginning.
2) In a playlist, clicking on "stop" puts you go to the first song/video.

(Sorry for my poor english.)
Comment 1 André Klapper 2009-08-02 13:15:14 UTC
Please file only one report per issue. Otherwise this is impossible to handle.
Thanks.
Comment 2 Mathieu 2009-08-02 22:37:35 UTC
Ils ont pourtant les deux à voir avec le bouton "stop" inexistant.

Que suis-je donc sensé faire ?
Ne pouvez-vous pas séparer le sujet en deux pour moi, alors ?

Merci
Comment 3 André Klapper 2009-08-03 08:17:32 UTC
Hmm, also right. I'll let the the developers decide :)
(Please write in english. Thanks.)
Comment 4 Philip Withnall 2009-08-03 13:17:56 UTC
I see no compelling reason to add one based on the arguments here:
 - you can press the Previous button to skip back to the start of the current track
 - you can double-click on songs in the playlist to start playing them

Neither of those two things requires too much clicking or messing around with the UI, so the amount of time saved by adding a stop button would be minimal.

If you have any more reasons to add a stop button, please add them to bug #132128. Thank you.

Thanks for the bug report. This particular bug has already been reported into our bug tracking system, but please feel free to report any further bugs you find.


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 132128 ***
Comment 5 Mathieu 2009-08-04 19:06:49 UTC
I'm afraid you didn't answer the MAIN question which is (the subject says it):
Stop playing after the song currently playing when a playlist is loaded

The second one is more something about habits of users and they expect the same behaviour for every program/device.
So, taking your argument, why does the industry put a stop button on their devices?

I hope you understood what I mean by the "habits" of users. There's a stop button in Windows Media Player, Winamp, VLC, Ario, (Gnome) Mplayer, xine, ...

Totem would be an "exception" which would break the user understanding of such an application.

If I may use this "metaphore": You've got a tool to "mute sound". You're saying we don't need it because you can easily unplug the audio cable...
Comment 6 Bastien Nocera 2009-08-04 20:04:27 UTC
Your points are already answered in the other bug, and aren't up for discussion.
Comment 7 Mathieu 2009-08-04 22:01:39 UTC
(Si vous le permettez, je crois qu'entre André, Bastien et Mathieu, l'anglais est ridicule, mais bon, je vous vois venir...)

Bastien, je ne veux pas vous choquer, ni vous injurier, mais je vous trouve très arrongant et égoïste, sur ce rapport de bug et sur l'autre (132128).

Vous vous permettez par votre simple avis de résoudre un problème sans écouter les arguments des autres.

Ce genre de questions devrait se résoudre par un VOTE de différentes personnes (développeurs du projet, autres développeurs, et SURTOUT LES UTILISATEURS qui utilisent le programme au quotidien), les développeurs devraient d'ailleurs à ce propos d'abord réfléchir en termes d'usabilité, de facilité d'utilisation plutôt que "technique".

Vous n'avez pas non plus pris en compte ma remarque à propos de :
Arrêter la lecture après ce morceau, lorsqu'une liste de lecture a été chargée.
Comment 8 Mathieu 2009-08-04 22:03:38 UTC
ah, et au lieu du "your points aren't up for discussion", autant dire tout de suite : "cause toujours, je ne t'écoute pas, de toute manière..."
Comment 9 André Klapper 2009-08-04 22:14:27 UTC
Mathieu, I assume you did read comment 3 and still you ignore it.

Regarding comments 7 and 8: Further insults will make your Bugzilla account disabled. Last warning.
Comment 10 Bastien Nocera 2009-08-04 22:32:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> (Si vous le permettez, je crois qu'entre André, Bastien et Mathieu, l'anglais
> est ridicule, mais bon, je vous vois venir...)

Philip and André don't speak French, and I'd appreciate it if you followed the advices mentioned in the bug.

This isn't a democracy, which is one of the reasons why you can't vote in this bugzilla. It's a meritocracy.

I would have thought this problem would been flogged like a dead horse. But the other bug probably didn't make it clear enough.

Anyway, the "Stop" button in machines (and on some computer programs) is used to stop any mechanical movements. The stop button on a cassette playing will remove the reading heads from the tape itself, on a CD player, it will stop the use of resources.

Pause in Totem will do the same thing, it will free the sound device, and stop Totem from doing anything. A Stop button would do the same thing.

You're actually asking for a button to go back to the start of the playlist, but you can already double-click on the file you want to play.

(And I can be arrogant, seeing as you're the second person to ask for a Stop button for Totem on this bugzilla in 8 years. Rhythmbox and sound-juicer don't have stop buttons either, and neither does iTunes).