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Bug 584709 - ctrl+ins and shift+ins have no effect
ctrl+ins and shift+ins have no effect
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: nautilus
Classification: Core
Component: Cut Copy Paste Undo
3.10.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: Nautilus Maintainers
Nautilus Maintainers
: 722704 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2009-06-03 12:29 UTC by Lionel Dricot
Modified: 2021-06-18 15:28 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.25/2.26



Description Lionel Dricot 2009-06-03 12:29:20 UTC
Ctrl+insert and shift+insert are standard shortcuts for copy/paste. It works in nearly all application.

Some keyboard (like mine), have copy/paste keys that emulate this shortcut.

Unfortunatly, it has no effect at all under nautilus.

It would be nice to support those shorcuts so copy/paste work with strange multimidia keyboard.
Comment 1 A. Walton 2009-06-03 20:50:11 UTC
Given that these keys have been deprecated in Windows since ~Win98 and usability ruled on the subject 7 years ago against this, and that really the problem is really a Gtk+ problem, all signs point to WONTFIX.

See bug 68850.
Comment 2 Lionel Dricot 2009-06-03 21:04:17 UTC
I don't understand why it would be a GTK bug as only nautilus suffer from this problem.

Also, the fact that a (completely new) keyboard emulates this with copy/paste key might be a new fact in the discussion.
Comment 3 Cosimo Cecchi 2009-06-08 16:14:11 UTC
I am for WONTFIXing this too, but let's hear an opinion from the usability guys.
Comment 4 Lionel Dricot 2009-06-09 07:09:59 UTC
Is there any drawback of supporting this shortcut ? I can't see any reason to not doing it (if, of course, someone volunteer to do it) but maybe I'm missing something.
Comment 5 Lionel Dricot 2009-06-17 08:13:41 UTC
A.Walton : I'm unable to find any information about this "deprecation". It looks like it's still working on any Windows (someone should test with Windows 7), that's maybe why some hardware manufacturer are using it.

Anyway, I don't see the interest of not supporting it as it as absolutely no impact on users not using this shortcut and it will make the other ones happy.
Comment 6 Lionel Dricot 2009-06-17 08:16:20 UTC
BTW, I just learned that it is used a lot by people who have their mouse on the left (and that it might be the reason why this shorcut still exist).
Comment 7 Lionel Dricot 2009-06-18 10:13:20 UTC
Those shortcut are considered as default by GTK :
http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/GtkTextView.html#GtkTextView-copy-clipboard

Definitely not a GTK issue then.
Comment 8 C de-Avillez 2010-01-06 02:29:00 UTC
Reported also on Ubuntu -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/503466
Comment 9 C de-Avillez 2010-01-06 02:31:40 UTC
Sigh. Forgot. These are common key-bindings (Ctrl-X/C/V/etc). Windows still uses them -- at least up to the Windows Server 2003 and WindowsXP.
Comment 10 André Klapper 2011-08-19 10:32:08 UTC
So what are Ctrl+insert and Shift+insert actually expected to do?
Comment 11 Lionel Dricot 2011-08-19 11:08:22 UTC
André > cut and paste. They are ctrl+x and ctrl+v aliases.
Comment 12 Tobias Getzner 2014-03-11 14:31:10 UTC
Still current as of Nautilus 3.10. Other GTK3 apps still allow the CUA bindings. Keyboard layouts with special cut/copy/paste-keys seem to send the CUA-keysyms instead of Ctrl-X/C/V. Depending on your keyboard layout, the CUA-keys can be more easily accessible, which is why it would be nice to have the GTK-default in Nautilus.

Nautilus currently uses shift-delete for "delete selected files", while the GTK3 default still performs the CUA-function, namely "cut to clipboard".
Comment 13 António Fernandes 2014-03-11 23:25:14 UTC
*** Bug 722704 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 André Klapper 2021-06-18 15:28:21 UTC
GNOME is going to shut down bugzilla.gnome.org in favor of gitlab.gnome.org.
As part of that, we are mass-closing older open tickets in bugzilla.gnome.org
which have not seen updates for a longer time (resources are unfortunately
quite limited so not every ticket can get handled).

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